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Oh, i forgot. The ability is intimidate so when the opponent actually hits it will be weaker.


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chepechestnut wrote:
can someone please rate my team?
I need a special sweeper as well. If anyone can think of one i would really appreciate it.



Slaking-Adamant/Jolly-Shell Bell
EQ
Giga Impact
Brick Break
Aerial Ace/Night Slash

Night Slash lets you hit Ghosts, Jolly helps you outspeed more.

Tyranitar-Adamant-Leftovers
Crunch
Rock Slide
EQ
Dragon Dance

Typical Dragon Dancer


Chansey Blissey?-Bold-leftovers
Aeromatherapy
Skill Swap
Softboiled
Egg Bomb

Not really, if you can't get S-Toss + Thunder Wave then:

Blissey@Leftovers
Bold, EV's: 252 Def, 252 HP
Calm Mind
Softboiled
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam


Bastiodon- Careful- Leftovers
Metal Burst
Iron Defense
Toxic
Roar

I guess it could work, watch out for EQ.

Salamence-Jolly-Lum Berry
Crunch/ Dragon Dance
Brick Break
Dragon Claw
EQ

Another Dragon Dancer, hits everything except Shedinja. Lum berry helps you switch in on a T-Wave or Toxic.


Starmie's my favorite special sweeper, but Alakazam and Porygon-Z are great too.

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hawkeye_jmr wrote:
How would you guys rate this?

Luxray {luxray}
Item- King's rock
Ev's- 252 speed, 252 attack and 4 in hp
Bite . Crunch
Thunder fang
Fire fang/ ice fang
Thunder wave/ Scary face No. Howl to boost Atk

Think about it, With bite and king's rock your opponent will keep flinching. Well crunch does more dmg
Combined with thunder wave it will have the opportunity to strike first and make them flinch. The paralysis also keeps them still.That's true, but you could use this moveset. The thing with this is that most pokemon are faster than Luxray so try the moveset I posted below....

{luxray} @Choice Scarf
Adamant, evs 252 atk 252 spd 6 hp
Fire Fang
Ice Fang
Thunder Fang
Crunch

The thing with this moveset is that it will be fast, Adamant boost your atk by 1.1 and Choice Scarf boosts your spd by 1.5 which lets you outspeed most pokes that would be a threat except maybe some choice scarf holders eg- ScarfMence


NOTE TO thekiller0703 you haven't rated in a llloooooooooooonnnggggggggg time, right???

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Yeah but thunder wave will do what choice scarf does , let you do all your moves, and occasionally stop thier move. Why choice scarf over thunder wave?


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Well coz firstly many pokemon can KO Luxray with a EQ before you can use T- Wave,eg- Salamence, Garchomp, Electrive so Choice Scarf is better

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{garchomp}

Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Flamethrower
Giga impact

{aggron}

Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Dark Pulse
Stone Edge

{metagross}

Hammer Arm
Meteor Mash
Shadow Ball
Psychic

{sceptile}
Leaf blade
Dragon Claw/Dragon Pulse
Earthquake
X-Scissor

{charizard}

Dragon Claw
Shadow Claw
Flamethrower
Focus Punch

{spiritomb}

Dark Pulse
Shadow Ball
Silver Wind
Calm mind


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brian wrote:

SD Set
{garchomp} @Focus sash

Adamant/Jolly evs 252 atk 252 spd 6 hp
Earthquake Are you trying to make SD set??Dragon Claw
Flamethrower No. Swords Dance
Giga impact. No. Stone edge or Brick break

If so I'll make a Choice set and a SD set

Choice Set

{garchomp} @Choice Band/Scarf Band with Jolly and Scarf with Adamant.
Adamant/Jolly evs 252 atk 252 spd 6 hp
Outrage
Earthquake
Brick Break
Stone edge


{aggron}@ Choice Band

Adamant evs 252 def 252 atk 6 hp
Ice Beam No. Dragon Claw
Thunderbolt. No.Brick break
Dark Pulse No. Iron headStone Edge

{metagross} @ Leftovers

Adamant evs 252 atk 129 def 129 sp def/ 252 atk 252 def 6 hp
Hammer Arm. No Metagross can't afford the spd loss. B break
Meteor Mash
Shadow Ball No. EQ or Explosion
Psychic. No. Zen Headbutt for Stab

Physical Sweeper?
{sceptile}@ Choice Band
Jolly evs 252 atk 252 spd 6hp
Leaf blade
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
X-Scissor

{charizard}@ Life Orb

Hasty Nature 200 atk 200sp atk remaining evs in spd
Dragon Claw. No. Dragon Pulse
Shadow Claw Mixed Sweeper, right??Flamethrower
Focus Punch No. Aerial Ace

{spiritomb}@ Leftovers

Dark Pulse
Shadow Ball
Silver Wind
Calm mind

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Roar Of Time wrote:
Well coz firstly many pokemon can KO Luxray with a EQ before you can use T- Wave,eg- Salamence, Garchomp, Electrive so Choice Scarf is better


Ok, thanks.


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please criticize the team as a whole if possible, really trying to work on it, so far i have been finding it has been really powerful so far, but any help is appreciated

Forretress @ lefties (relaxed)
252 hp 252 defense 6 spd.
stealth rock
toxic spikes (i like them better than spikes, if there is a major flaw with them let me know)
gyro ball
rapid spin

(spinner, SR-spiker and T-spiker)


Blissey @ leftovers (bold)
252 hp 252 defense 6 sp. d
Aromatherapy
seismic toss
thunderwave/sing (not sure, thunderwave makes me fear electivire)
softboiled

(pretty standard cleric)


Azumaril (who would expect this thing) @ leftovers (adamant)
252 hp 129 sp.d 129 def.
Belly drum
Aqua jet
Ice punch
Return

(aqua jet is the only really used attack, return for bulky waters. Strategy here is simple switch in on something setting up, or something that will not do more than 50%, force them to switch, belly drum, sweep with aqua jet, bulky waters will not be able to do more than 50% anyway so speed is not a problem when they come in so return for them, ice punch for dragons trying to set up)

(i no charizard does this better, but its just to fun to sweep with Azumaril)


Heatran @ leftovers (modest)
252 spec. att. 44 speed (201 magic number to outrun bulky waters) 208 hp
fire blast
earth power
dragon pulse
roar (i needed a phazer)

(spec. sweeper, flash fire is the best ability out there)


Specs Mence (Modest)
252 speed 252 spec. at 6 hp
draco meteor
hydro pump (hits heatrans harder than everything else)
flamethrower
dragon pulse (as a finisher, works well, and doesn't need more type cover)

(special sweeper works really really well with heatran)


Breelom @ Toxic orb (jolly)
252 att 252 speed 6 hp
spore
substitute
Focus punch
seed bomb

(fails to flying but the rest of my team does fine so im not worried, this thing is scary to be up against, and fun to use)

standard-ish setup,
special sponge
physical sponge (spiker)
2 special sweepers
2 physical sweepers

THANKS AHEAD OF TIME!


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zoso2220 wrote:
please criticize the team as a whole if possible, really trying to work on it, so far i have been finding it has been really powerful so far, but any help is appreciated on it

Forretress @ lefties (relaxed)
252 hp 252 defense 6 spd.
stealth rock
toxic spikes (i like them better than spikes, if there is a major flaw with them let me know)
gyro ball
rapid spin

(spinner, SR-spiker and T-spiker)
well, toxic spikes is ok, just stay clear of any heracrosses that come in your way. most people have only 1 spiking move so there is room for explosion to blow away any threat. the speed EVs are unnecessary because you do have gyro ball. 1 minor change would be explosion>toxic spikes.


Blissey @ leftovers (bold)
252 hp 252 defense 6 sp. d
Aromatherapy
seismic toss
thunderwave/sing (not sure, thunderwave makes me fear electivire)
softboiled

(pretty standard cleric)
good. if this is for shoddy, go with sing; if not, stick to T-wave.


Azumaril (who would expect this thing) @ leftovers (adamant)
252 hp 129 sp.d 129 def.
Belly drum
Aqua jet
Ice punch
Return

(aqua jet is the only really used attack, return for bulky waters. Strategy here is simple switch in on something setting up, or something that will not do more than 50%, force them to switch, belly drum, sweep with aqua jet, bulky waters will not be able to do more than 50% anyway so speed is not a problem when they come in so return for them, ice punch for dragons trying to set up)

(i no charizard does this better, but its just to fun to sweep with Azumaril)
only setback here are its EVs... dump some into attack to fully take advantage of belly drum (because your attacks do have low base power, with the exception of return-a normal attack)


Heatran @ leftovers (modest)
252 spec. att. 44 speed (201 magic number to outrun bulky waters) 208 hp
fire blast
earth power
dragon pulse
roar (i needed a phazer)

(spec. sweeper, flash fire is the best ability out there)
i would say motor drive is the best ability lol. does your set enable you to take out bulky waters beside phazing? you can run a choice set with lava plume/flamethrower>fire blast (sucks if it misses) and flash cannon>roar (for choice specs) or explosion>roar (choice scarf)


Specs Mence (Modest)
252 speed 252 spec. at 6 hp
draco meteor
hydro pump (hits heatrans harder than everything else)
flamethrower
dragon pulse (as a finisher, works well, and doesn't need more type cover)

(special sweeper works really really well with heatran)
specsmence usually calls for timid nature w/ choice specs. everything else seems good.


Breelom @ Toxic orb (jolly)
252 att 252 speed 6 hp
spore
substitute
Focus punch
seed bomb

(fails to flying but the rest of my team does fine so im not worried, this thing is scary to be up against, and fun to use)
again, pretty nice.


standard-ish setup,
special sponge
physical sponge (spiker)
2 special sweepers
2 physical sweepers

the fact that you have heatran w/ roar cries the fact that you need a phazer. replacce forrestress with skarmory and you're set... then i realized you would have skarmbliss, which isnt very original... your choice.

THANKS AHEAD OF TIME!


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Does anyone have any good movesets for Gengar?


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I refuse to reveal my secret Gengar move set, as it is very secret and powerful, and I just excessively kicked butt with it on NetBattle, and have a win streak of 50 using only that thing currently.

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i didn't say you had to moron


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with gengar, you can run a choice set or the wide lens set

Gengar@choice specs/choice scarf
timid/modest 252spAtk/252spd/6hp
-shadow ball
-thunderbolt
-energy ball
-focus blast/HP fighting/sludge bomb

the usual specs-timid or scarf-modest on this gengar. however, gengar is possibly the only pokemon that makes wide lens viable:

Gengar@wide lens/black sludge
timid 252spAtk/252spd/6hp
-hypnosis
-focus blast
-shadow ball
-thunderbolt/energy ball/sludge bomb

wide lens make focus blast/hypnosis reach respectable accuracy (since stone edge users are common, why can't hypnosis/focus blast users be as well?) however, it you hate missing once in a while, focus blast can be replaced with another special attack (from the options in the 4th attack) and go with black sludge as a held item, which is basically a leftovers for poison-types.


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Thanks, does black sludge recover more than leftovers for poison types?


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hawkeye_jmr wrote:
Thanks, does black sludge recover more than leftovers for poison types?


no just the same amount. its somewhat good when your foe has a tricker (an opponent who has trick) hoping to get your leftovers, but gets drained by black sludge (it heals poison types, but damages other types too)

also evades item clause as well =)


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I just got a shiny shinx with a good nature and now I will be raising it here it is.

{luxray}Docile/@???
~Thunder Fang
~Crunch
~Iron Tail
~Return

Yes and I would just like to say something. NO I WILL NOT BREED FOR MOVES!!! Thank you. All pokemon I ask to be rated I already have like that.

Others:

{dragonite}Gentle/@Yache Berry
~Dragon Dance
~Aerial Ace
~Dragon Claw
~Earth Quake

{sceptile}Timid/@Wise Glasses
~Energy Ball
~Dragon Pulse
~Focus Blast
~Agility

{latios}Rash/@Lum Berry
~Surf
~Dragon Pulse
~Calm Mind
~Psychic

{armaldo}Docile/@???
~Rock Polish
~X-Scissor
~Earth Quake
~Swords Dance

{swampert}Brave/@Leftovers
~Water Fall
~Avalanche
~Stone Edge
~Earth Quake

{snorlax}Quiet/@Leftovers
~Focus Punch
~Curse
~Body Slam
~Earth Quake

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Pokemaniac wrote:
I just got a shiny shinx with a good nature and now I will be raising it here it is.

{luxray} Docile/@???
~Thunder Fang
~Crunch
~Iron Tail
~Return
technically not a good nature here, and w/o breeding for ice fang, luxray sucks. choice band to hit hard, that is if luxray survives the hit. choice scarf would let it go first, but it wont KO much before it does.

Yes and I would just like to say something. NO I WILL NOT BREED FOR MOVES!!! Thank you. All pokemon I ask to be rated I already have like that. will you rebreed for nature? because most of them stinks.

Others:

{dragonite} Gentle/@Yache Berry
~Dragon Dance
~Aerial Ace
~Dragon Claw
~Earth Quake
adamant nature, outrage>dragon claw, fire punch>aerial ace to hit skarms/bronzongs that come in your way. DD+outrage, @persim berry is the best option for dragonite.

{sceptile} Timid/@Wise Glasses
~Energy Ball
~Dragon Pulse
~Focus Blast
~Agility
sceppy doesnt need speed. subseed is a popular option here with stealth rock/spikes support, but i just realized you wont breed for moves :| leaf storm>agility because it doesn't speed as mentioned before. also, it allows you to slap on choice specs, and leaf storm+overgrow+choice specs is a fairly good last-resort move.

{latios} Rash/@Lum Berry
~Surf
~Dragon Pulse
~Calm Mind
~Psychic
lati@s is one of the best draco meteor users in the game. run draco meteor/surf/thunderbolt/psychic under choice specs, or take out psychic for calm mind, @lefties.

{armaldo} Docile/@???
~Rock Polish
~X-Scissor
~Earth Quake
~Swords Dance
adamant/jolly nature, rock polish or swords dance, not both. replace rock blast with one of them (preferably rock polish) to break subs.

{swampert} Brave/@Leftovers
~Water Fall
~Avalanche
~Stone Edge
~Earth Quake
the nature would've been utilized better w/ curse, but oh well. good i guess, considering you wont breed for curse. @choice band.

{snorlax} Quiet/@Leftovers
~Focus Punch
~Curse
~Body Slam
~Earth Quake
quiet O.o just plain no... get an impish/adamant one. focus punch is not good here, go with rest instead.


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zoso2220 wrote:

Azumaril (who would expect this thing) @ leftovers (adamant)
252 hp 129 sp.d 129 def.
Belly drum
Aqua jet
Ice punch
Return
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Belly Drum/Aqua Jet is an illegal breeding combo. Ditch Drum for Brick Break and Return for Waterfall, and stick a CB on it. The rest of the team is fine but you do need a phazer.


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lol thanks for that.

i also realized that aqua jet + ice punch is illegal as well (ice punch via emerald move tutor, aqua jet through breeding)


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Belly Drum/Aqua Jet is an illegal breeding combo. Ditch Drum for Brick Break and Return for Waterfall, and stick a CB on it. The rest of the team is fine but you do need a phazer.[/quote]

What do you mean by illegal breeding combo?


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hawkeye_jmr wrote:


What do you mean by illegal breeding combo?


azumarill can only get belly drum and aqua jet through breeding. now, the only pokemon that can breed aqua jet into a marill is the poliwag family, so heres a possilbe breeding setup:

Male poilwag w/ belly drum
Female azumarill
You get a marill w/ belly drum.

however, you would also want aqua jet on a marill right? you basically, you would need a poliwag w/ belly drum and aqua jet as well to breed it into a marill. wuite bluntly put, you can't get such a legit poliwag with such moves, and therefore you can't breed those two moves into a marill.

in conclusion, you can't have a legit azumarill with aqua jet and belly drum, making it an illegal move combo.


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i get it, thanks.


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How would you guys rate this?
{ursaring}

Ursaring- adamant ability- black sludge item
Ev's- 252 att, 252 speed, the rest in hp

Facade
Earthquake
Crunch or shadowclaw
Cross chop or rockslide

Feel free to offer suggestions.


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