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Author:  Krisp [ Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:14 pm ]
Post subject:  The NEW 3rd Generation Rating Center
(The update is in color at the bottom of the post)

Seeing as quite a few team rating threads have popped up, I've decided to re-open the rating center from the last forum. If anybody has a team they would like to have rated, post it here, and don't start a new thread for it. Any new "rate my team" threads will be deleted, and a PM will be sent to the poster telling him/her to re-post the team in this thread.

In order to avoid one big mess of a thread, there is a limited amount of raters who will rate the teams here. I must insist that only people on the rating team (or people with special permission, like the Elite Four) will be able to rate the teams here.

The Rating Team (Active):
sN0wBaLL
tiger10x
ChroniclerC
wenziz
Peanut-Lover
Benjamin
Skytune
R-cubed
Pokemaniac
garabato
Mega_Horn
Gnaaye

Currently Inactive Raters:
Nido
Neo_Matrix


NOTE: The Elite Four have special permission to rate the teams here as well, even though they're not officially on the list. This is merely out of respect for them, and because they are so leet.

I would also like to make it clear that we do not give out movesets just like that. We recommend and would prefer if everyone try their best at putting together a team and movesets, before they post on this thread. Any "here are my Pokemon, give me movesets for them" threads will be ignored.

For further reference, the following is a link to a thread of a list of all the standard movesets for all the Pokemon, compiled by papersun and sN0wBaLL: Standard Movesets Guide.

Post away!

A few things added Dec 30:

Lately, there have been a few misunderstandings about posting teams in general. To try to ease this up, there are now a few guidelines about it (below). Just remember, these are not rules, these are merely "suggestions" from raters that would significantly ease our jobs.

1. Preferred format: Some people have different styles for putting a moveset into words than other people do, but it should at least be easy enough to understand from the viewpoint of the rater. They should be evenly spaced with new lines for each move and a break between Pokemon. Also, please do not use any color. Here is an extremely basic outline of this:

Pokemon
Move
Move
Move
Move

Pokemon
(etc)

2. Required and optional data: What is required for a team is really only the data shown in the above format; there is nothing else required. Most people like posting natures, items, abilities anyway, and that's just fine. The more data you can supply, the better. Some things that we really don't need, and they don't actually help us much anyway, are the Pokemon's stats. EVs are optional, providing that some people may not know what they are. What the team is to be used for is also optional (like the game version or if it would be used for the battle frontier), but if you want something very special, you'll need to specify. Similar to that, if you lack the ability to get a few moves on a Pokemon (TMs, Tutors), it would help if you said something about that. It's not our fault if we don't give you what you want because you didn't say anything. And related to that, if we don't give you what you want in general, there are so many other resources on the site and forums that it would be pointless to post them all.

3. Asking for extra suggestions or filling in the blanks and etc: Leaving a "?" in a moveset is perfectly fine. Leaving a Pokemon with a "?" for every category is also fine, but it is easier if you actually have an idea of what to do for the Pokemon, too. This should be similar to a question about what Pokemon you could add to complete your team. Just give us an idea, and that helps immensely. As mentioned, we have all those resources, and they should not be ignored.

4. Posting teams without movesets: As mentioned in the first part of this post, we don't give movesets (again, refer to the site, etc). This is similar to the above question, too, but it's a little more extreme. As of late, raters have just been supplying basic things about types and stuff. It's okay now, just don't expect us to actually give you too much detail if you don't likewise.

Credit goes to Nido for the first post. I'll be deleting the old thread on May 5th 2007. Please be aware of this date, and save any ratings you still need. The raters haven't changed from the old rating center, and this will continue like the old one did.
Author:  elite42 [ Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:14 pm ]
Post subject: 
wow first one. anyways...

there all ev-trained, so don't suggest breeding/changing natures/etc.
this is in a double battle in pokemon colosseum

i DO NOT like choice band
no repeated items between metagross, swampert and salamence for BF purposes

{metagross} Adamant @ SB
252atk, 252spd, 6sp.def
meteor mash
shadow ball
EQ
sludge bomb

{salamence} Adamant @ Lum/???
252atk, 252spd, 6 sp. def
brick break
a-ace
EQ
rock slide

{swampert} Hardy @ Chesto/???
252hp, 129 sp.atk, 129 atk
surf
ice beam
EQ
rest

{ludicolo} Favours attacking; dislikes defense; hates support (unfortunately) @ Lefties
252hp, 252def, 252sp.def
rain dance
dive (might get toxic soon)
giga drain (used PP Max)
leech seed

{sceptile} quirky? I forgot @ lum/shell bell/???
252ap.atk, 252 spd, 6 def
leaf blade
t-punch
crunch
dragonbreath (no d-claw, good for paralyzing powerful dragons)

{blaziken} rash @ shell bell/lum/???
252spd, 129 atk, 129 sp. atk
sky uppercut/brick break
flamethrower
a-ace
rock slide

I have heard bad rumours about Critiken being bad sometimes and getting virtually NO criticals, but I CAN use one.

rate please
Author:  Bluestrike [ Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:28 pm ]
Post subject: 
elite42, change ur sig, it breaks the rules...

ok, thanks for all the help, now all I need is a sixth pokemon... with changes, this is what i have now:

{swampert}
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Earthquake
-Rest/Refresh/Counter/Mirror Coat

{houndoom}
-Sunny Day
-Flamethrower
-Solar Beam
-Crunch

{gardevoir}
-Calm Mind
-Thunderbolt
-Psychic
-Will-o-wisp/something else

{dusclops}
-Shadow Ball
-Mean Look
-Curse
-Rest

{metagross} w/ choice band
-Earthquake
-Meteor Mash
-Sludge Bomb
-Aerial Ace

What do i have for my last slot? I dont really know what I am missing from this team... maybe another electric attack somewhere... i really have no idea? do you?
Author:  garabato [ Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:59 pm ]
Post subject: 
elite42 wrote:
wow first one. anyways...

there all ev-trained, so don't suggest breeding/changing natures/etc.
this is in a double battle in pokemon colosseum

i DO NOT like choice band
no repeated items between metagross, swampert and salamence for BF purposes

{metagross} Adamant @ SB
252atk, 252spd, 6sp.def
meteor mash
shadow ball
EQ
sludge bomb

You may not want CB but you need it there. Otherwise Rock slide > Shadow ball.

{salamence} Adamant @ Lum/??? Yes
252atk, 252spd, 6 sp. def
brick break
a-ace
EQ
rock slide

No DD and no choice band??. That sucks. But I guess this moveset is fine then.

{swampert} Hardy @ Chesto/??? Yes, lefties are good option too
252hp, 129 sp.atk, 129 atk
surf
ice beam
EQ
rest

Good.

{ludicolo} Favours attacking; dislikes defense; hates support (unfortunately) @ Lefties
252hp, 252def, 252sp.def
rain dance
dive (might get toxic soon)
giga drain (used PP Max)
leech seed

Surf > Dive or toxic. Congratulations for giving him 756 Evs. :roll:

{sceptile} quirky? I forgot @ lum/shell bell/???
252ap.atk, 252 spd, 6 def
leaf blade
t-punch
crunch
dragonbreath (no d-claw, good for paralyzing powerful dragons)

Almost standard. Good.

{blaziken} rash @ shell bell/lum/??? Those are both good options.
252spd, 129 atk, 129 sp. atk
sky uppercut/brick break SU
flamethrower
a-ace
rock slide

I have heard bad rumours about Critiken being bad sometimes and getting virtually NO criticals, but I CAN use one.

Ahhhh...someone flamming my favorite set for critiken...tell him/her to stfu :evil: . Critiken does gets a lot of critikal hits. However for your set: Overheat > flamethrower. And Bulk up/ Sword dance/ EQ > Aerial ace.

rate please


Bluestrike. You may wat a special sponge (blissey) or a stat uper physical sweeper. Curser Snorlax or Dragon dancer Dragonite/Tyranitar are good options. Gengar is a good adition to many teams since most people dont expect someone to have 2 ghosts. And this thing makes a free switch in into a lot of things (EQ, return, megahorn, focus punch, brick break, sludge bomb, toxicers, etc).
Author:  SAIRAM [ Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:05 am ]
Post subject: 
What would be a good nature and item for a Blaziken with this moveset?

{blaziken} @???
Flamethrower
Thunderpunch
Sky Uppercut
Rock Slide

Note: NO CRITIKEN MOVESET I ALMOST NEVER GET A CRITICAL HIT.

Thanks.
Author:  kody [ Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:42 am ]
Post subject: 
here guys i changed my team around a little bit
this team is for emerald , i may use one of the pokemon for the battle frontier

{snorlax} @ chesto Impish nature
ThickFat ability
ShadowBall
Yawn
Return
Rest

{dragonite} @ (need an item) Hardy nature
Inner Focus ability
EQ
Brick Break
Return
Fly <don't wanna delete

{staryu} = {starmie} v
surf
???
???
???
about staryu, i needed a water type so i picked starmie but im training it atm, i need a good move set etc for him but i was thinking about teaching him t-bolt since i took out raikou (i dont legends much)

{absol}

again this is the pokemon i got rid of raikou for , i need a good moveset and etc or. if i shouldn't use this guy and use raikou (or another electric pokemon tell me)buti think i can use absol
i was thinking like this
Ariel Ace
T-bolt
f-thrower
return < you gotta love it



{metagross} @ mild nature
clear body ability
I was thinking something like this
Pyschic
Meteor Mash
iron defense
return < or something else

{alakazam} @ gentle nature
inner focus ability
still im not good at move sets but..?
pyschic
psybeam
shockwave
??????


as you can see i need alot of help again i think this is better then before, but you can see im very picky... =)

thanks
kody
Author:  Peanut-Lover [ Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:27 pm ]
Post subject: 
Sorry i haven't been here...

<s>Bluestrike</s> SAIRAM (terribly sorry)- go for bulk up/swords dance > t-punch. what does t-punch hit, aside from waters? It won't ko, if thats what your hoping.

For some reason, there's a problem Kody, so i can't quote - here's the rate, though:

{snorlax} I'd say curse/bick break > yawn, but thats okay. Careful/Adamant nature is better though.

{dragonite} @Choice band, or leftovers.

{starmie} Lapras is an option. As is slowbro. But for starmie, its what you want - cosmic power, recover, T-bolt, ICe beam, Pychic, Surf, Rapid Spin. Lots of moves available.

{absol} Specialize. Calm Mind + b-pass > aerial ace + return, or Swords Dance + Shadow Ball > T-bolt and flamethrower.


{metagross} Agility, Meteor Mash, Sludge Bomb, Shadow Ball/EQ/Rock Slide.

{alakazam} Modest nature, t-punch > shock wave, recover + calm mind > Psybeam + ???
Author:  Bluestrike [ Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:53 pm ]
Post subject: 
Peanut-Lover wrote:
Bluestrike - go for bulk up/swords dance > t-punch. what does t-punch hit, aside from waters? It won't ko, if thats what your hoping.


Eh? I never mentioned thunderpunch...
Author:  Pokemaniac [ Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:49 pm ]
Post subject: 
SAIRAM wrote:
What would be a good nature and item for a Blaziken with this moveset?

{blaziken} @???
Flamethrower
Thunderpunch
Sky Uppercut
Rock Slide

Note: NO CRITIKEN MOVESET I ALMOST NEVER GET A CRITICAL HIT.

Thanks.


You could use Docile nature or something that ups its Special Defense or just normal Defense.
Author:  Bluestrike [ Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:49 am ]
Post subject: 
what sort of moveset would i need for a ddancing dragonite?
{dragonite}
-DDance (of course)
-?????
-?????
-?????
Author:  sN0wBaLL [ Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:17 am ]
Post subject: 
bluestrike wrote:
what sort of moveset would i need for a ddancing dragonite?
{dragonite}
-DDance (of course)
-?????
-?????
-?????


Physical moves, of course. A possible moveset would be the suggested one in the Advanced Generation Movesets Guide. Here it is:

Dragonite @ Lefties/Shell Bell
Adamant | Inner Focus
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
~Dragon Dance
~Aerial Ace
~Earthquake
~Brick Break
Author:  Your Mum [ Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:13 am ]
Post subject: 
ok heres my emerald team:

Salamence

D claw
crunch
hydro pump
flamethrower

Heracross

Megahorn
brick break
reversal
take down > double edge

Milotic

Hydro pump
recover
refresh
Water Pulse > maybe Surf...not sure

Rhydon

Rock Slide
EQ
Thunder
Surf

Metagross

Meteor mash
EQ
Psychic
Hyper Beam

Blaziken

Slash
Flamethrower
Blaze Kick
Sky Uppercut

I think you'll have guessed my plan is just brute force...no stat bonuses or reductions...All are raised from lvl 5
Author:  Peanut-Lover [ Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:09 pm ]
Post subject: 
Your Mum wrote:
ok heres my emerald team:

Salamence

D claw
crunch
hydro pump
flamethrower
This is known as Elemence. I'd like to bring to your attention why this is probably one of the bigger follys in Pokemon history:
1.) Hydro Pump has horrible accuracy
2.) This hits barely anyone (dragons, steels, grasses, psychic, ghosts). Thats about it
3.) The attack stat > special attack stat.
4.) It fails to get t-bolt or ice beam, critical moves on most special sweepers.

This is as ood as it gets. This is about every single special move her gets. Please choose wisely.

Heracross
Megahorn
brick break
reversal
take down > double edge
Endure > Take down. If this is in-game (no salac berry), this is sort of outclassed by other heracross versions (bulk up, swords dance, or choice banders).

Milotic
Hydro pump
recover
refresh
Water Pulse > maybe Surf...not sure
Surf, Ice beam, then either Rest + Sleep Talk (MArvel Scale) or Recover + Refresh. Again, Hydro Pump is inaccurate.

Rhydon
Rock Slide
EQ
Thunder
Surf
No special moves, please. Double Edge (if rock-head ability), and brick break > thunder and surf.

Metagross
Meteor mash
EQ
Psychic
Hyper Beam
Esplosion + Sludge bomb > Psychic and Hyper beam. Psychic is off the lower special attack, and hyper beam requires recharge.

Blaziken
Slash
Flamethrower
Blaze Kick
Sky Uppercut
Critiken? Focus energy > Flamethrower. Thats it. Or, Rock Slide and Bulk Up/Swords Dance > Blaze Kick and Slash.

I think you'll have guessed my plan is just brute force...no stat bonuses or reductions...All are raised from lvl 5
Author:  SAIRAM [ Wed May 02, 2007 7:52 am ]
Post subject: 
Man people are'nt using this as much as they used to.
Only three for now
{salamence} @Lefties
Adamant or Jolly
252Atk 252Spd 6HP
DD(yay finally got it)
Rock Slide
Aerial Ace
???(trying to conserve EQ)

{metagross} @???
Adamant
228Atk 92Spd 76HP 56Def 56 Sp.Def
Meteor Mash
EQ
Agility
Explosion

{tyranitar} @???
Adamant
252Atk 156Spd 76Def 84Sp.Def
EQ
Rock Slide
DD
Aerial Ace

Note:These are iduvidual pokemon not a team for the BF
Author:  Bushin [ Wed May 02, 2007 8:03 am ]
Post subject: 
Team for competitive battles...
Basic rules:
-Item Clause
-Sleep Clause
-Any Uber on level 90 is considered Legendary
-Legendary clause off
-Double battle

---Sunny BOOM Team---
---Starters---
{latias} Sakura
@Soul Dew *Shine* Lv90
Timid-Ev:[Traded(I don't know)]
Levitate
-Solarbeam
-Thunderbolt
-Ice beam
-Protect

{groudon} Kingroundon
@Leftovers *Shine* Lv 90
Bold-Ev:[Traded(I don't know)]
Drought
-EQ
-Ancient Power
-Bulk up
-Protect

---Bombers---
{snorlax} Pelota
@Quick Claw Lv100
Adamant-Ev:Hp & Att Max
Thick Fat
-Double Edge
-Shadow Ball
-Protect
-Self-Destruct

{metagross} Metalox
@Liechi B. Lv100
Adamant-Ev:Hp-100 Att-Max speed-152
Clear Body
-Meteor Mash
-EQ
-Agility
-Explosion

---Protecters---
{blaziken} Blazon Lee
@White Werb. Lv100
Hasty-Ev:Att & Speed Max
Blaze
-Overheat
-Sky Uppercut
-EQ
-Protect

{sceptile} Lagartixa
@Petaya B. Lv100
Timid-Ev:Sp.Att & Speed Max
---forgot the name{ability} :P---
-SolarBeam
-Thunderpunch
-Hidden Power [Ice 70]
-Substitute
Author:  garabato [ Thu May 03, 2007 9:14 am ]
Post subject: 
Sairam: Off course you should keep EQ there for the awsome type coverage and power. Can't you clon the EQ TM???? (otherwise ask someone to clone it for you :? ) However Salamence's base speed is 100, so after one dragon dance is faster than everything. That means you dont need 252 speed, those EV would be better placed in HP. And you want an adamant nature there for the same reason.

Items for metagross/tyranitar are shell bell, lefties or lums. And the movesets are very good, same as the EVs.

bushin wrote:
Team for competitive battles...
Basic rules:
-Item Clause
-Sleep Clause
-Any Uber on level 90 is considered Legendary
-Legendary clause off
-Double battle

---Sunny BOOM Team--- So you are basing your strategy on the sun???. Well seeing as groundom is your only way to summon sunlight, your team will fail as soon as kyogre/tyranitar comes out...and those are really overused pokemon in this legendary metagame.

---Starters---
{latias} Sakura
@Soul Dew *Shine* Lv90
Timid-Ev:[Traded(I don't know)]
Levitate
-Solarbeam
-Thunderbolt
-Ice beam
-Protect

Calm mind > Protect. And you may want to trhow recover in there instead of something (otherwise blissey and other calm minders will beat you one on one). I would suggest puting it instead of SB, but is up to you, seeing as this is a sun abuser team.

{groudon} Kingroundon
@Leftovers *Shine* Lv 90
Bold-Ev:[Traded(I don't know)]
Drought
-EQ
-Ancient Power
-Bulk up
-Protect

Bold???? Ughhhh :? ...Adamant would have been better. However HP bug/Overheat/Rest/Return > Protect. Some people would out sword dance over bulk up since your defence is already very high..and you wont be taking a lot of physical hits anyway.

---Bombers---
{snorlax} Pelota
@Quick Claw Lv100
Adamant-Ev:Hp & Att Max
Thick Fat
-Double Edge
-Shadow Ball
-Protect
-Self-Destruct

Nice, altough Rest/EQ/Curse > Protect. A choice band is usually there to make it a bomb that will KO anything with selfdestruct.

{metagross} Metalox
@Liechi B. Lv100
Adamant-Ev:Hp-100 Att-Max speed-152
Clear Body
-Meteor Mash
-EQ
-Agility
-Explosion

An agility set doesn't needs max speed. Those EV would be better placed in HP and attack.

---Protecters---
{blaziken} Blazon Lee
@White Werb. Lv100
Hasty-Ev:Att & Speed Max
Blaze
-Overheat
-Sky Uppercut
-EQ
-Protect

Good, Sword dance/bulk up/Hp bug > Protect.

{sceptile} Lagartixa
@Petaya B. Lv100
Timid-Ev:Sp.Att & Speed Max
---forgot the name{ability} :P---
-SolarBeam
-Thunderpunch
-Hidden Power [Ice 70]
-Substitute

Seems good.


So yeah, I understand why do you want protect there, but a skilled player will usually predict those and use them as a free turn. If you put a ghost in your team then you can just send it out whenever one of your pokemon wants to blow up..
Author:  SAIRAM [ Thu May 03, 2007 9:38 am ]
Post subject: 
garabato I have 2 EQ TM's but dont want to use them so would a CB set work out?
{salamence} @Lefties
Adamant/Jolly
252Atk 252Spd 6HP
EQ
Rock Slide
Aerial Ace
Brick Break/Steel Wing

Since I'm a begginer when it comes to the CB how about the Flincher Set(got the idea from Battle Factory)
{salamence}@King's Rock
252Atk 129Spd 129HP
DD
Rock Slide
Headbutt
Aerial Ace
Author:  garabato [ Thu May 03, 2007 12:13 pm ]
Post subject: 
Do you have cloning acces??? Because that really helps out with the lack of EQ (being the best TM abd stuff...) I know that you dont like cheating but Glitch =/= Cheat. The game programers made a mistake and you are just abusing it :wink: .

And yes, a choice bander set for Salamance really works out very good, dont change the EV spread if then.

The flinching set indeed, is fun to use, you could try it out. However EQ is necesary in there too. Good EV spread.
Author:  Sylphid [ Thu May 03, 2007 4:58 pm ]
Post subject: 
Unfortunatley, i can do nothing about the natures...

{crawdaunt} naughty
EV's-Atk:252 Spatk:252 Hp:6
CRUNCH
PROTECT
SURF
SLUDGE BOMB

{Vileplume} bold
spatk:252 spd:129 def:64 spdef:64
MOONLIGHT
SUNNY DAY
SOLARBEAM
SLEEP POWDER

{breloom} impish
atk:252 spd:252 hp:6
SPORE
FOCUS PUNCH
SUBSTITUTE
LEECH SEED

{aggron} calm
def:252 spdef:252 hp:6
AERIAL ACE
RETURN
THUNDER WAVE
EARTHQUAKE

{altaria} modest
def:129 spatk:252 spdef: 129
DRAGON CLAW
SAFEGUARD
TOXIC
ICE BEAM

{pinsir} quiet (arghhh!)
atk:252 spd:252 hp:6
GUILLOTINE
ROCK SLIDE
BRICK BREAK
SWORDS DANCE


I refuse to clone so bear in mind if a one-off TM is used here i cannot use it elsewhere.


feel free to recommend items too!
Author:  Peanut-Lover [ Thu May 03, 2007 5:54 pm ]
Post subject: 
Sylphid wrote:
Unfortunatley, i can do nothing about the natures...

{crawdaunt} naughty
EV's-Atk:252 Spatk:252 Hp:6
CRUNCH
PROTECT
SURF
SLUDGE BOMB
I see you like caps lock - please don't do all caps, next time. Anyway, swords dance > Surf, Brick break/aerial ace > crunch.

{Vileplume} bold
spatk:252 spd:129 def:64 spdef:64
MOONLIGHT
SUNNY DAY
SOLARBEAM
SLEEP POWDER
looks ok. Hidden power fire would have been nice (instead of sleep powder).

{breloom} impish
atk:252 spd:252 hp:6
SPORE
FOCUS PUNCH
SUBSTITUTE
LEECH SEED
Swords Dance/hp ghost > substitute. You spore, they won't hit. Then, power up, or hit a ghost.

{aggron} calm
def:252 spdef:252 hp:6
AERIAL ACE
RETURN
THUNDER WAVE
EARTHQUAKE
Brick Break > Return, Rock Slide > Aerial Ace, Double Edge > T-wave (if rock head ability. Leave it as t-wave otherwise).

{altaria} modest
def:129 spatk:252 spdef: 129
DRAGON CLAW
SAFEGUARD
TOXIC
ICE BEAM
Flamethrower > Safeguard (natural cure).

{pinsir} quiet (arghhh!)
atk:252 spd:252 hp:6
GUILLOTINE
ROCK SLIDE
BRICK BREAK
SWORDS DANCE
EQ > Guillotine. Or leave as is.

I refuse to clone so bear in mind if a one-off TM is used here i cannot use it elsewhere.


feel free to recommend items too!
Author:  Peanut-Lover [ Fri May 04, 2007 3:26 pm ]
Post subject: 
SAIRAM wrote:
garabato I have 2 EQ TM's but dont want to use them so would a CB set work out?
{salamence} @Lefties
Adamant/Jolly
252Atk 252Spd 6HP
EQ
Rock Slide
Aerial Ace
Brick Break/Steel Wing

Since I'm a begginer when it comes to the CB how about the Flincher Set(got the idea from Battle Factory)
{salamence}@King's Rock
252Atk 129Spd 129HP
DD
Rock Slide
Headbutt
Aerial Ace


For CB, Brick Break > Steel Wing. Looks good.
Sala's a good flincher, though. looks good.
Author:  SAIRAM [ Fri May 04, 2007 10:12 pm ]
Post subject: 
Peanut-Lover wrote:
SAIRAM wrote:
garabato I have 2 EQ TM's but dont want to use them so would a CB set work out?
{salamence} @Lefties
Adamant/Jolly
252Atk 252Spd 6HP
EQ
Rock Slide
Aerial Ace
Brick Break/Steel Wing

Since I'm a begginer when it comes to the CB how about the Flincher Set(got the idea from Battle Factory)
{salamence}@King's Rock
252Atk 129Spd 129HP
DD
Rock Slide
Headbutt
Aerial Ace


For CB, Brick Break > Steel Wing. Looks good.
Sala's a good flincher, though. looks good.

Thanks. And do you know that this is the first team you've rated for me in months even though you were online?
I checked the STAT calculator for the Metagross' STAT's and here they are

HP:289
Atk:380
Def:299
Sp.Atk:188
Sp.Def:216
Spd:178

Here's the moveset and EV spread
{metagross}
Adamant
228Atk 92Spd 76HP 56Def and Sp.Def.
Should I shift the EV's or should I rebreed.
Author:  Peanut-Lover [ Sat May 05, 2007 2:17 pm ]
Post subject: 
Rebreed. I think that your dvs are low (just from my calculations).
Do you have the DVs set out?
Author:  SAIRAM [ Sat May 05, 2007 9:04 pm ]
Post subject: 
Ok I think that the DV's are
HP:0 :(
Atk:14
Def:20
Sp.Atk:14
Sp.Def:forgot
Spd:see above
So when I rebreed does the Everstone work?And what are the acceptable DV's?
Author:  elite42 [ Sun May 06, 2007 12:58 pm ]
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just my opinion, but I think "acceptable" DVs would be having fairly high on atk and spd, and lower on sp. atk

my {metagross} and {salamence} both have skyrocketing sp. atk DVs :cry:

EDIT: woohhhh.... looks at peanut-lover... i never knew people posted so much in the rating centre.... peanut used to be a pokemon prof.
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