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Author:  Wilesthegreat [ Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:20 am ]
Post subject:  Sandstorm Team
Please rate my first functional team

Sandstorm


Hippowdon
Impish
Sand Stream
Leftovers
252 hp / 16 atk / 152 def / 88 spdef
Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Ice Fang
Slack Off


Breloom
Adamant
Poison Heal
Toxic Orb
44 hp / 252 atk / 212 spd
Spore
Substitute
Focus Punch
Leech Seed


Flygon
Adamant
Levitate
Choice Scarf
80 hp / 252 atk/ 176 spd
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Fire Blast
U-turn


Skarmory
Impish
Keen Eye
Leftovers
252 hp / 96 atk / 152 def / 8 spd
Whirlwind
Brave Bird
Spikes
Roost


Metagross
Naughty
Clear Body
Expert Belt
252 hp / 124 atk / 132 spd
Hidden Power – Fire, if not, thunderbolt/physic or what else?
Earthquake
Meteor Mash
Grass Knot


Jirachi
Naughty/Lonely/Quiet
Senere Grace
Leftovers
240 hp / 56 atk / 76 def / 136 spd
Thunderbolt
Wish
Zen Headbutt
U-turn
Author:  lordtomato [ Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sandstorm Team
1st thing i noticed: You need at least i more poke to have sandstorm.
2nd thing: Fire weakness. You've got quite a few steel types there, and in my opinion jirachi and metaX are a bit redundant. (yes I know many of your pokes pack EQ)
3rd: no rock types, no stone edge on any poke. correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe sandstorm boosts the power of rock attacks. Also a rock type would be kinda nice to add. perhaps Rhyperior instead of jirachi?
Also, while Flygon does have levitate to switch into EQ, Garchomp has Sand Veil, which can be annoying.
For your Metagross, instead of hidden power (which is special, while you clearly have a physical metax), I suggest Expolsion, or Bullet Punch.

So yea. That's my two cents. For a sandstorm team you don''t have much sandstorm.
Author:  Volke [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sandstorm Team
lordtomato wrote:
3rd: no rock types, no stone edge on any poke. correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe sandstorm boosts the power of rock attacks. Also a rock type would be kinda nice to add. perhaps Rhyperior instead of jirachi?

No, sandstorm deals damage to Pokemon that are not rock/steel/ground. It also boosts the special defense stats of rock types (yeah, only rock types) by 1.5. Other than that, that's it.

Also, while Flygon does have levitate to switch into EQ, Garchomp has Sand Veil, which can be annoying.
For your Metagross, instead of hidden power (which is special, while you clearly have a physical metax), I suggest Expolsion, or Bullet Punch.

Garchomp is banned, unless Wiles wants to play casually with his friends/gets an agreement with people over the internet/real life. I think Thunderpunch is also a good alternative as well. Well, his Metagross actually kinda looks like a mixed variant...except his EVs don't really match up with Smogon's set.

So yea. That's my two cents. For a sandstorm team you don''t have much sandstorm.

Wiles, I'll try to rate your team later in the rating center. At a glance though, I'm thinking you should use more sandstreamers and more pokemon that take full advantage of the sand (rock types/sandveil).
Author:  lordtomato [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sandstorm Team
well, yea... I knew about the damage thing...
I meant in addition to damage. :?
Author:  Wilesthegreat [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sandstorm Team
So far I haven't crossed a fire pokemon who I couldn't deal with. Jirachi is good for healing team members. Jirachi is also for gyrados. Metagross is for Swampert, but with hidden power also bets other steels. I would have Garchomp but it is uber now. Tyranitar didn't help much either. I don't believe sandstorm boost rock moves, but I also haven't found a good rock type to abuse the special defense boost. Flygon and Jirachi double U-turning is very good. I like Breloom because he is not affected by the sand to much and has a very cheap moveset. So far my only problem is stat-upers, mainly tanks who are the last pokemon and can't be whirlwinded away.
Author:  Volke [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sandstorm Team
lordtomato wrote:
well, yea... I knew about the damage thing...
I meant in addition to damage. :?

Yeah, I kinda figured you already knew about the damage. I just felt like writing it out anyway...I don't know why...just felt like it.
Author:  Theolithical [ Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sandstorm Team
Well, I'm just going to suggest a few things.

1- Use shuckle or t-tar, as they really take advantage of the 1.5x Sp. def boost from SS and provide great people to set it up.
2. I'd suggest putting physical moves on Metagross, as he is a huge physical attacker. I'm pretty sure that he can learn Thunderpunch, which would be a lot more effective then t-bolt.
Author:  penguino [ Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sandstorm Team
Use a tyranitar. powerful, takes advantage of sandstorm, plus he whips up a sandstorm himself. and hes supa-cool. :).

Honestly, if you're trying to make a sandstorm team, just start anew. Get rid of the Breloom, jirachi, and flygon.
And i dont know enough about EVs to rate the EVs of hippowdon, metagross, and skarmory, but they dont look right....

Question: Would it be good to have both shuckle and tyranitar in a sandstorm team?
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