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Sneaky Sneasel Gym Leader Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:21 pm Posts: 3128 Location: College	Magic Umbreon wrote: Exeggutor Psychic Mega Drain Toxic Leech Seed Explosion over Toxic Dragonite Hyper Beam Fly Agility Ice Punch Sky Attack over Fly, if he can learn it that is, and something better over Ice Punch. Chansey / Beedrill Thunder Wave / Twineedle Softboiled / Poison Sting Seismic Toss / Agility Minimize / Hyper Beam [color=cyan]Beedrill sucks, go with Chansey, but Special attack (TB or IB) over Minimize Lapras Thunderbolt Surf Ice Beam Body Slam [color=cyan] Sing or Confuse Ray over Thunderbolt, Blizzard over Ice Beam Rhydon Earthquake Rock Slide Substitute Counter Rest over Counter Gengar Thunderbolt Psychic Fire Punch Ice Punch / Lick Hypnosis over a Punch, whichever one This is a rainbow team I was planning. Beedrill and Gengar's Lick weaken the team but give it a move of every type. A nice novelty, but as Beedrill's stats, Lick and Poison Sting are awful it does not add to the strategy. The rainbowish strategy is to hit with a wide variety of pok _________________
Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:33 pm

Magic Umbreon Ace Trainer Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:05 pm Posts: 312	Yeh, I agree with most of that. Beedrill wasn't a plan to use, just there to make it rainbow lol. Does eggy have enough attack to make use of explosion? Draggy doesn't learn sky atk. Thunder wave might work instead of agility. Maybe Reflect could work. So, I'll swap Ice Punch (Beam) on Dragonite with Thunder Wave on Chansey. As I have other ways of inducing paralysis, Body Slam seems less useful than Headbutt, 30% sounds like a nice hax. Gengar can but them to sleep, so Confuse Ray adds variety. So how often is Ice Beam better or worse than Seismic Toss? So we have: Exeggutor Psychic Mega Drain Explosion Leech Seed Dragonite Hyper Beam Fly Thunder Wave Reflect Chansey Ice Beam Softboiled Seismic Toss Minimize Lapras Confuse Ray Surf Blizzard Headbutt Rhydon Earthquake Rock Slide Substitute Rest Gengar Thunderbolt Psychic Fire Punch Hypnosis _________________
Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:25 am

Magic Umbreon Ace Trainer Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:05 pm Posts: 312	What's going on here? There hasn't been any posts for weeks... _________________
Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:37 pm

Sneaky Sneasel Gym Leader Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:21 pm Posts: 3128 Location: College	Magic Umbreon wrote: Exeggutor Psychic Mega Drain Explosion Leech Seed Looks okay here. perhaps Sleep Powder of Leech Seed since you already have Mega Drain Dragonite Hyper Beam Fly Thunder Wave Reflect Fine. Chansey Ice Beam Softboiled Seismic Toss Minimize Thunder Wave over Minimize if possible Lapras Confuse Ray Surf Blizzard Headbutt Body Slam over Headbutt if possible Rhydon Earthquake Rock Slide Substitute Rest Fine. Gengar Thunderbolt Psychic Fire Punch Hypnosis Fine. _________________
Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:48 pm

Bryanistehnoob Bug Catcher Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:10 am Posts: 12	uhm hi i want to get my team rated i gots Tauros Hyper Beam Blizzard Earthquake Double-Edge Scyther/Cloyster Hyper Beam/Ice Beam Swords Dance/Explsion Agility/Supersonic Slash/Surf Snorlax Double-Edge Body Slam Hyper Beam Rest Chansey Softboiled Counter Sing Thunder Bolt Alakazam Recover Thunder wave Psychic Psybeam Slowbro/Lapras Amnesia/Ice Beam Psychic/Body Slam Surf/Hidro Pump Rest/Sing between my Slowbro/Lapras and Cloyster/Scyther who am i better of with? or could i take out someone else for them? or get a different pokemon?
Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:20 pm

Sneaky Sneasel Gym Leader Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:21 pm Posts: 3128 Location: College	Bryanistehnoob wrote: Tauros Hyper Beam Blizzard Earthquake Double-Edge Body Slam over Double-Edge if you can.[/cyan] Scyther/Cloyster Hyper Beam/Ice Beam Swords Dance/Explsion Agility/Supersonic Slash/Surf [color=cyan]Use Cloyster, and Blizzard over Ice Beam and Clamp over Surf. Hyper Beam over Supersonic if you can. Snorlax Double-Edge Body Slam Hyper Beam Rest Fine. Chansey Softboiled Counter Sing Thunder Bolt Thunder Wave over Sing or Counter. Alakazam Recover Thunder wave Psychic Psybeam Seismic Toss over Psybeam for other Psychics. Slowbro/Lapras Amnesia/Ice Beam Psychic/Body Slam Surf/Hidro Pump Rest/Sing [color=cyan]Both are really good, so it's your choice. If you choose Slowbro, Thunder Wave over Surf is an option. If Lapras, Confuse Ray over Hydro Pump. You only have one Sleeper, and that's Lapras, if you choose her. Perhaps an Exeggutor, Jynx, or even Gengar over Lapras/Slowbro, if you want. _________________
Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:39 am

Bryanistehnoob Bug Catcher Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:10 am Posts: 12	Sneaky_Sneasel wrote: Bryanistehnoob wrote: Tauros Hyper Beam Blizzard Earthquake Double-Edge Body Slam over Double-Edge if you can.[/cyan] Scyther/Cloyster Hyper Beam/Ice Beam Swords Dance/Explsion Agility/Supersonic Slash/Surf [color=cyan]Use Cloyster, and Blizzard over Ice Beam and Clamp over Surf. Hyper Beam over Supersonic if you can. Snorlax Double-Edge Body Slam Hyper Beam Rest Fine. Chansey Softboiled Counter Sing Thunder Bolt Thunder Wave over Sing or Counter. Alakazam Recover Thunder wave Psychic Psybeam Seismic Toss over Psybeam for other Psychics. Slowbro/Lapras Amnesia/Ice Beam Psychic/Body Slam Surf/Hidro Pump Rest/Sing [color=cyan]Both are really good, so it's your choice. If you choose Slowbro, Thunder Wave over Surf is an option. If Lapras, Confuse Ray over Hydro Pump. You only have one Sleeper, and that's Lapras, if you choose her. Perhaps an Exeggutor, Jynx, or even Gengar over Lapras/Slowbro, if you want. well thanks for the help ill use cloyster and i kinda alredy used blizzard and thunder wave and Clamp isnt allowed were i play =( and the Seismic toss is preatty good idea and i think ill take the slowbro but ima keep surf thx for the recommandations
Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:48 pm

TheLunarDeity Bug Catcher Joined: Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:46 pm Posts: 2	Any suggestions? Psychic Earthquake Swords Dance Softboiled Notes: Mixed sweeper, my favorite pokemon. Psychic Ice Beam/Blizzard (Which one should I use?) Amnesia Recover Notes: Umm... yeah. Thunderbolt Drill Peck Thunder Wave Light Screen Notes: Light Screen to stop those pesky special sweepers (Mewtwos especially). Earthquake Rock Slide Substitute Rest Notes: Self-explanitory. Surf Amnesia Withdraw Rest Notes: Great if you could pull off the Withdraw and Amnesia 6 times each, I try to swap it in when the opponent uses Rest. Body Slam Earthquake Double Team Rest Notes: Great combo in Double Team and Rest.
Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:02 pm

phenomenon Bug Catcher Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:24 pm Posts: 9 Location: USA	blue version: first pokemon game i ever owned...to be more precise first video game i ever owned! lets see if i can remember... thunderbolt quick attack pin missle i think sand attack lol flamethrower fire blast wing attack i think slash (those were the only 2 i ever trained) but i also had... psychic confusion psybeam reflect surf hyper beam ice beam bite dig slash earthquake fissure fly wing attack sky attack gust? lol remember i was very young, and i could hardly remember those, but i think i got alot of my rivals pkmn after i saw how cool they looked dont be to harsh
Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:19 pm

Silver Ace Trainer Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:19 am Posts: 403 Location: Pallet Town (Kanto)	My RBY Team let me load red up real quick........................ Venusaur Lv.83 Solarbeam Razorleaf Mega Drain Sleep Powder Pidgeot Lv.79 Wing Attack Sky Attack Gust Tackle Arcanine LV.81 Fire Blast TM Flamethrower Bite Leer Articuno Lv.76 Ice Beam Blizzard Mist Fly Jolteon Lv.70 Thunder Thunderbolt Pin Missle Quick Attack Rhydon Lv..65 Earthquake Rockslide TM Takedown Dig TM _________________
Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:52 am

Jamie Pokemon Ranger Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:42 pm Posts: 516 Location: Ontario, Canada	Is this a good moveset for Mew? Psychic Softboiled Ice Beam Thunderbolt I was thinking of switching a move for Earthquake... _________________ It's a story about a ninja who couldn't climb a wall.... BUT BECAME A BIG POP STAR.
Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:47 pm

Wobbi Bug Catcher Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:33 am Posts: 16 Location: Canada	i remember when i was very young, about 9 i guess, i loved blastoise - it was my fav pokemon. now it is not. anyways, that is the only pokemon i used. it got up to level 88 i think. blastoise bite surf ice beam earthquake it was the only pokemon i used in the game to beat the elite four. the only wild battles it received were a few level ups at the beginning of the game when i got it and when i beat the game i went to the power plant to train, which i now realize is a VERY bad place to train - only about 200 - 300 EXP per pokemon. i got about 5 levels or so training at the power plant. that is sad - my pokemon is in the eighties and all its fighting is level 20 pokes which give 200-300 exp. lol. oh yea, btw it is red version and i could not trade (no link cable) and also i had no gameshark
Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:45 pm

Peanut-Lover Site Administrator Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:32 am Posts: 1917 Location: Brooklyn, NY	Wobbi wrote: i remember when i was very young, about 9 i guess, i loved blastoise - it was my fav pokemon. now it is not. anyways, that is the only pokemon i used. it got up to level 88 i think. blastoise bite surf ice beam earthquake it was the only pokemon i used in the game to beat the elite four. the only wild battles it received were a few level ups at the beginning of the game when i got it and when i beat the game i went to the power plant to train, which i now realize is a VERY bad place to train - only about 200 - 300 EXP per pokemon. i got about 5 levels or so training at the power plant. that is sad - my pokemon is in the eighties and all its fighting is level 20 pokes which give 200-300 exp. lol. oh yea, btw it is red version and i could not trade (no link cable) and also i had no gameshark Can you get the blizzard TM? 108 is the average damage, in RBY (screwy system). I'd go with Skull Bash, for power, or counter, instead of bite. Okay, I'll admit, I'm no expert, but this guy seems to be: http://db.gamefaqs.com/portable/gameboy ... rategy.txt
Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:31 am

Wobbi Bug Catcher Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:33 am Posts: 16 Location: Canada	btw peanut lover, you can get blizzard - tm 14 i either had ice beam or blizzard (made em years ago forgot) and maybe skull bash over earthquake i am not sure. i might have had submission on there, but not counter and your link doesn't work (or at least when i click it)
Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:24 pm

Peanut-Lover Site Administrator Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:32 am Posts: 1917 Location: Brooklyn, NY	the link works for me... Anyway, go to gamefaqs.com, type pokemon crystal (thats the only one i guarantee), and click on Strategy Guide (RJones is the author), below the walkthroughs (on this page: http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbcolo ... 75087.html )
Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:49 pm

Pokemaniac Pokemon Ranger Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:27 pm Posts: 920 Location: Canada	Just my Pokemon Blue team LV.100 Hydro Pump Earthquake Icebeam Skull Bash LV.100 Horn Drill Double Kick Focus Energy Surf LV.100 Thunder Bolt Mega Drain Psychic Hypnosis LV.100 Sludge Body Slam Screech Acid Armor LV.100 Hyper Beam Rock Slide Body Slam Rest LV.100 Psychic Thunder Punch Recover Amnesia LV.100 Thunder Fly Agility Light Screen LV.100 Hydro Pump Submission Swords Dance Slash It's a shame how Kabutops can't get Rockslide. _________________ Pokemon Pearl FC:2749 9225 9473 Up for a battle anytime! Just PM me.
Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:35 pm

Peanut-Lover Site Administrator Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:32 am Posts: 1917 Location: Brooklyn, NY	Pokemaniac wrote: Just my Pokemon Blue team LV.100 Hydro Pump Earthquake Icebeam Skull Bash Surf > Hydro Pump, Blizzard > Ice Beam (Back in RBY, blizzard had better accuracy). Earthquake sounds good, but counter or substitute may be better (sub bash). LV.100 Horn Drill Double Kick Focus Energy Surf My, my. No poisons in an RBY team, just because of the domination by psyhcics. But, it does a pretty good job of overcoming. Focus Energy is good, but you will want Earthquake, T-bolt, and Ice Beam/Blizzard. LV.100 Thunder Bolt Mega Drain Psychic Hypnosis Trade back ice punch, possibly over mega drain. Otherwise, you're fine. LV.100 Sludge Body Slam Screech Acid Armor 3 Poisons is very bad. No. Get another psyhcic. Like 'Zam, Jynx, Slowbro, or Starmie. LV.100 Hyper Beam Rock Slide Body Slam Rest No need for hyper beam and body slam. Just BS. EQ instead. LV.100 Psychic Thunder Punch Recover Amnesia T-bolt > T-punch. LV.100 Thunder Fly Agility Light Screen Thunderbolt + DrillPeck > Thunder + Fly. LV.100 Hydro Pump Submission Swords Dance Slash I know that I may be ridiculed, but i'm about to reccomend dumdumdum DIG. A good attack, no EQ. It's a shame how Kabutops can't get Rockslide. I'm no expert - I adapt certain techniques in a guide with the movesets of today.
Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:24 pm

abloomon4 Psychic Trainer Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 2:31 pm Posts: 90 Location: New Jersey!	My RBY team im going to face my friend with. I think its relatively decent but I think it has a blind spot or two. Razor Leaf Body Slam Sleep Powder Leech Seed Strategy: Sleep Powder, Leech Seed, Then use CH from Razor Leaf to own, Body Slam 4 everything Razor Leaf is 4x weak against Surf Ice Beam Confuse Ray Body Slam Strategy : Confuse Ray + Bodyslam 4 parafusion and/or pound away with Surf / Ice beam Double Team Flamethrower Swift Reflect Strategy: Relect to Raise poor defense, Double Team if posible, Then pound away with Swift / Flamethrower using Flareons good Attack/ Special Thunder Wave Hyper Beam Surf Thunderbolt Current Strategy : No Clue, feel free to suggest a new pokemon here if you wish Wing Attack Dragon Rage Double Team Hyper Beam Current Strategy : Hopefully get a fast Double Team or two and nail a lucky miss. Wing Attack + Dragon Rage to Damage consistently, then finish of with Hyper Beam Psychic Reflect Recover Thunder Wave? / Double Team? / Seismic toss? Current Strategy : Reflect to Raise Defense, Then Sweep with Psychic. Confused on the last slot. Im leaning toward Seismic Toss. _________________ <img src="images/trainercards/abloomon4.png">
Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:26 am

Peanut-Lover Site Administrator Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:32 am Posts: 1917 Location: Brooklyn, NY	abloomon4 - Okay, maybe I can make some suggestions: Venusaur - Yes, most in RBY start with a sleeper, but one problem - the 2 biggest sleepers kill this one (Jynx and Exeggcutor). Instead, go with toxic. Remember, Leech Seed runs on the same counter as Toxic. So, you get back more hp, and deal ALOT more damage. Now, what is 4x resist to Razor Leaf? I don't know anything but Dragonite - in any case, go with earthquake. Lapras: TANK!!! It needs Rest, trust me. What's the hp rank, like 5 in 81, right? Then again, What you have is fine. I typically reccomend 4 of the following: Rest, Confuse Ray, Psychic, T-bolt, Ice Beam, Surf, BodySlam/SkullBash. Not Blizzard, here, only because this is going to last a long time, and you will run out of pp. Flareon - You joined psypoke, right? So, you have brains. Use them properly, and get a different pokemon, please! Dragonite: Blizzard NEEDS to be on here. Trust me. Also, Double Edge > Hyper Beam. T-wave is good, because freeze is rare. Can you trade to GSC? If so, agility or haze (If using haze, be sure not to haz a frozen/paralyzed opoponent. Aerodactyl - Lets start over. Headbutt flinches quite often. EQ is powerful. Rock Slide is powerful, and has stab. For the last move, Mimic is good on occasion, or Supersonic because confusion is awesome (though the accuracy isn't). You could run fire blast, to kill of grasses and ice types (by-by jynx). You could run swift because there isn't much else. Alakazam - The last move should have 2 more possibilities - Thunderpunch and Ice punch. Definately not double team, so you have 4 viable choices. Now, you need 2 things - a sleeper, and another pokemon (flareon really is horrible, i'm sorry). Usually, RBY teams have 2 psychics, and you only have 1. You need a fast, dependable sleeper (Lapras can sing, but it will be put to sleep first). So, Jynx with a Lovely Kiss, Ice beam, Psychic, and something else is a good idea.Bubble Beam for hitting more, substitute to prevent ailments, and s-toss for constant damage.
Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:09 pm

Meeps Dragon Tamer Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:26 am Posts: 221 Location: Wherever you want me to be.	My Blue needs rating Level 32 Bubblebeam Ice Beam Mega Punch Withdraw (Traded for ) Level 20 Fly Cut Razor Wind Sand Attack level 24 Thunderbolt Double-Edge Don't ask where I found the TM Horn Drill. Poison Sting Level 16 Thundershock Quick Attack Thunder Wave Flash Level 25 Scratch Growl Dig Rock Slide Abra level 6 Teleport Is there a TM for Horn Drill or is my game glitched? _________________ Meeps are back. (:
Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:14 pm

EvilPenguin Gym Leader Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:46 am Posts: 1553	Meeps wrote: Is there a TM for Horn Drill or is my game glitched? Yes there is, its TM 07, and its found in the Team Rocket Game Corner. Anyway, I'd like my Gengar rated Lvl 100 Hypnosis Dream Eater Night Shade Psychic _________________
Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:49 am

Peanut-Lover Site Administrator Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:32 am Posts: 1917 Location: Brooklyn, NY	Its about time - I've been waiting for RBY rates for so long. Meeps wrote: My Blue needs rating Level 32 Bubblebeam Ice Beam Mega Punch Withdraw Skull Bash > Withdraw. Surf > Bubble Beam. Counter > Mega Punch. Surf > Bubblebeam is obvious, for power. Skull Bash not only raises your defense (Withdraw), but also is a 100% accurate, 100 power normal move, compared to Mega Punch with 80 power, and 85% accuracy. Blizzard is an option > ice beam, but the low pp on a pokemon that can stick around isn't that good. The last move is a tossup - couner is good for physical sweepers, but leaves you vulnerable with low hp, and can fail with special moves, if not planned for. Thats about it. (Traded for ) Level 20 Fly Cut Razor Wind Sand Attack Dodrio > Fearow > Pidgeotto > Farfetch'd. Thats how bad this guy is. Trust me. level 24 Thunderbolt Double-Edge Don't ask where I found the TM Horn Drill. Poison Sting Nidoking > Nidoqueen. EQ, Blizzard, T-bolt, Rock Slide. Level 16 Thundershock Quick Attack Thunder Wave Flash Electabuzz > Raichu. Level 25 Scratch Growl Dig Rock Slide Sandslash may be a better bargain. Or a rhydon. Abra level 6 Teleport Alakazam/Jynx/Slowbro/Starmie > Abra. You actually should have 2 psychics in RBY teams. Psychic would be a definate. As is recover, when possible. Elemental punches are available through GSC. Amnesia for slowbro helps. T-bolt on starmie, along with ice beam, psychic, and surf, is good, with recover in there. Too many options. Blaziken234: Gengar ~Psychic ~T-bolt ~Ice Punch/Explosion/Fire Punch/Haze/Confuse Ray ~Ice Punch/Explosion/Fire Punch/Haze/Confuse Ray Lots of GSC Tradebacks. Trust me. Its good. Hypnosis/DreamEater sucks, unfortunately. Jynx is better at that. Night shade hits almost noone worse than the other moves (doesn't hit normals, and you wouldn't leave it in against psychic, would you? Pychic takes care of fighting, while t-bolt takes care of waters. Get my drift?).
Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:36 pm

Eon Pokemon Ranger Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:30 pm Posts: 843 Location: Psypoke	<b> It's not much to brag about, but here's my team. lv 100 Flamethrower Fly Slash Wing Attack Scary Face lv 98 Body Slam Submission Hypnosis Surf {victreebell} lv 94 Stun Spore Poison Poder Razor Leaf Acid lv100 Thunderbolt Ice Beam Hypnosis Dream Eater lv 99 Earthquake Explosion Magnitude Substitute lv100 Psychic Thunder Fire Blast Blizzard _________________ Get free graphics here... http://obeliskgfx.wordpress.com
Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:24 pm

Peanut-Lover Site Administrator Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:32 am Posts: 1917 Location: Brooklyn, NY	Eon wrote: It's not much to brag about, but here's my team. lv 100 Flamethrower Fly Slash Wing Attack Scary Face Doesn't get scary face. Swords Dance, EQ, Rock Slide, and either flamethrower, slash, or fly (in order of preference). Jynx and grasses killed by fire blast, slash becausen it hits hard, fly for the attack boost by sswords dance and stab and good hits on exeggcutor. lv 98 Body Slam Submission Hypnosis Surf Go with blizzard > hypnosis. Or amnesia. Or earthquake. Actually, a slowbro would do much better {victreebell} lv 94 Stun Spore Poison Poder Razor Leaf Acid An inferior venusaur. Exeggutor does sleep powder, poison powder, and stun spore. And, it gets stab in psychic, leaving it with less weaknesses (psychic weakness in RBY = DEATH, unless you are machamp). lv100 Thunderbolt Ice Beam Hypnosis Dream Eater Ice punch is a trade back. Hypnosis/Dream Eater is unreliable. Go with Psychic and explosion instead. lv 99 Earthquake Explosion Magnitude Substitute EQ, Rock Slide, Explosion, Double-Edge/Submission/may as well be empty. That is standard. Substitute is slow and won't last. Manitude is outdone by EQ. lv100 Psychic Thunder Fire Blast Blizzard Good with blizzard. Bad with Thunder and fire blast. Fire is outclassed by ice in type coverage. And, some glitch with thunder/blizzard made blizzard 90% accurate all times. Go for Softboiled and thunderbolt instead. I hope that this helped.
Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:25 pm

Frost THE POWER IS ON! Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:29 am Posts: 1581 Location: Purple Ranger	Fallacies in the RBY metagame: 1. Swords Dance and Slash should be used together. No. In RBY, Critical Hits completely ignore stat boosts. Thus, Swords Dancing up only to Slash things is a complete waste of time on everything with more than base 60 Speed, since Pokemon that fast will CH 99.6% of the time. (That statistic was not made up on the spot; there is a 1-in-256 chance for something like Slash to not CH when used by something like Charizard.) 2. Substitute and Focus Energy should be used. Unless you're playing in Stadium, these moves suck. Substitute does not protect you from stat drops or statuses like paralysis. Focus Energy doesn't do a damn thing, period. Sub is really only used on Rhydon in competitive battling, so it can survive 4x attacks, and that's only after a ton of paralysis support. 3. Hyper Beam and Blizzard are bad moves. No. Again, you're thinking with the mindset for later metagames. In RBY, Hyper Beam is often a key move that finishes off opponents with no drawbacks. You don't suffer from the recharging period if you KO your opponent's Pokemon unless you're playing in Stadium. Thus, in-game teams will greatly benefit from Hyper Beam. Also, Blizzard has 90% accuracy in this generation and generally outclasses Ice Beam unless you're using something that survives using all 8PP of Blizzard, like Chansey or Lapras. 4. Everybody plays in Stadium with GSC Tradeback moves. They don't, so stop recommending moves like Subsitute on anything or Ice Punch on things who only learn it in GSC. Only Hitmonchan and Jynx/Electabuzz/Magmar learn the elemental Punches naturally in RBY, with Hitmonchan being the only one who gets all three, and Hitmonchan sucks with all of them while the others have better elemental moves to be using. Other things: -Wing Attack, with its amazing 35 BP in RBY, should never used under any circumstances. -Haze is not really useful in RBY since it heals the opponent's stat changes and statuses but not your own statuses. -Counter is somewhat useful, despite only working on Fighting/Normal in RBY, because Normal moves are everywhere. -Fighting moves like Submission should never be used outside of Fighting Pokemon for STAB. EQ handles Rocks just fine. -Psychic Pokemon can easily squash every Bug in RBY. Lick doesn't even hit them. Psychics have no weak, basically.
Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:49 am

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