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Okay well i am into competitive battling and this is my netbattle team
Its gonna become my D/P team (with improved moves) When i get it but as of now just mainly Kantos and Johtos since those are my favorites anyway.

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Gyarados @ Leftovers
EV: 252atk 252 speed 6Def.
Adamant.
Intimidate
-Dragon Dance
-Torment
-EarthQuake
-HP:Flying

My variation of a bulkydos. Ive been playing gyrados since before competitive battling,he may be cliche and predictable but his moveset is a little different but hes effective. EQ for obvious type coverage and damage,HP:Flying for STAB.
Thanks to the D/P versions, Gyrados is now on par with Salamance, Dragonite and Tyranitar. Why? The reason is simple. Gyrados now has a few more Powerful attacks that it can unleash. Here's the moveset I think is best for it: Dragon Dance, Aqua Tail, Earthquake and Ice Fang. Also, with the new Wacan Berry, Gyarados now has an extra life against Electric moves. Oh, and ya, take note: HP is now a Sp .Atk based attack no matter what type it is.

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Blastoise @ Chesto Berry
Mild
Torrent
EV: 252 spDef 252 spAtk 6hp
-Haze
-Rest
-Surf
-Toxic

Hazer/Surf sweeper. Rest + Chesto for heal,which Ill only need to do once if ever. Toxic for extra damage and in case I DO need to rest again i can still hurt them.
A good counter for people who like to use stat raising moves like Double Team, Swords Dance and Dragon Dance, but I don't think Toxic would be necessary for it so teach it Ice Beam instead. Also, if you're planning to use it as a Sweeper, then do max out its Speed instead of its Sp. Def.

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Gengar @ ?? (Help me out)
Timid
Levitate
EV:252 spd. 252 spAtk 6hp
-Confuse Ray
-Ice punch
-Thunderbolt
-Shadow ball (Dont need punch because haze covers evade.)

Special sweeper. Nuff said.
Okay, with the new Physical and Special move rules, some Pokemon may have a little bit of problems. Ice Punch no longer serves as a reliable move for a Special Sweeper Gengar as it is considered Physical (Relies on attack instead of Sp. Atk.) so it'll be better to replace that with Energy Ball.
Also, in my opinion, Hypnosis will work better than Confuse ray and I suggest you give it a Focus Sash as Gengar has low Defensive Capabilities.

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Scizor @ Chesto Berry
Adamant
Swarm
EV: 252atk 252hp 6def
-HP:Bug (there was no other decent bug attacks for STAB)
-Rest
-Return
-Swords dance

Physical sweeper. I love Scizor. Rest + Berry combo again becuz when im swords dancing Ill take some damage.
Again, there are new moves that work perfectly with Pokemon like Scizor. In this case, X-Scissors and Iron Head are the ones. So do replace HP with X-Scissors as X-Scissors is a Bug type Physical move with a power of 80. And replace Return with Iron Head cos Iron Head is a 80 power steel type Physical move.

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Lapras @ Leftovers
Calm
Shell Armor
EV:252Hp 252SpDef 6SpAtk
-Confuse ray
-Surf
-Protect
-Rest

Annoyer/Special sponge.
In my opinion, Ice Beam would work better than Protect.
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Donphan @ Chesto Berry
Adamant
Sturdy
EV: 252Atk 252Def.
-Rest
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-HP: Flying

Great physical sweeper/Physical sponge. Once again rest and Chesto I dont care i love the combo and it WORKS.
Again HP is now Special based, thus it'll be much better to teach Poison Jab.


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Again, do pm me if you have any problems.
Rate my new team:thanks now I made changes

Heracross
Jolly
Guts
Megahorn
Rock Slide
Reversal
EQ
I can see what you're trying to get at here but I've one combo here that you'll love for sure: Swords Dance, Endure, Reversal and Night Slash.
1) You'll never have to fear any Type..you'll hit all Pokemon in the game for at least Neutral Damage.
2) They either get blasted by reversal or they get hit by a Powered Up Night Slash (That is, if they're resistant against Fightning Types, otherwise, do use Reversal.) cos you'll most likely have Swords Danced before. And, good news, 2 of the types whom Fighting types moves are weak at are the Ghost and Psychic types. Your Night Slash will cut through them like a Hot Knife through Butter.
3) Lastly, you must give it a Salac Berry in order for this combo to work at its fullest and make sure you max out its Speed by Hook or by Crook.


Rhyperior
Adamant
Soild Rock
EQ
Avalanche
Megahorn
Thunder Fang

Garchomp
Adamant
Sand Veil
Fire Blast is a Physical attack
Sword Dance
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
At last, I see someone who knows how well Swords Dance works with Garchomp...but one problem, never teach Special Moves to Physical Sweepers...that's what I always think. Do replace that with Crunch/Rockslide/Fire Fang, it works so much better.

Darkrai
Timid
Bad Dreams
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Dark Void
Dark Pulse
Darkrai became one of the Pokemon at the top of my list when I found out how Evil it can get. My combo is similar to yours, but I taught Double Team instead of Psychic as it works hand in hand with his Dark Void. Just put the foe to sleep and Double Team away. of course, you'll need a leftovers for this combo and you can always swap Dark Pulse for Ice Beam when necessary. Honestly, this combo is unstoppable...

Azelf
Levitate
Modest
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Flamethrower
Shadow Ball

Milotic
Modest
Marvel Scale
Surf
Icebeam
Recover
Mirror Coat

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Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:03 am
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Rate this team please? Suggestions anywhere are liked.



{salamence} Salamence @ Focus Sash
Jolly | Intimidate
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
~Dragon Dance
~Dragon Claw
~Earthquake
~Crunch

Dragon Dance, then sweep through whatever possible.

{mamoswine} Mamoswine @ Muscle Band
Adamant | Oblivious
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
~Return
~Earthquake
~Avalanche
~Stone Edge

Physical Sweeper. Return's only really there as a filler.

{gengar} Gengar @ Wise Glasses
Modest | Levitate
252 Sp Atk, 129 Spd, 129 HP
~Thunderbolt
~Shadow Ball
~Sludge Bomb
~Substitute

Set up substitute, then sweep away!

{metagross} Metagross @ Leftovers
Impish | Clear Body
252 HP, 129 Atk, 129 Sp Def
~Iron Defense
~Sunny Day
~Meteor Mash
~Earthquake

Tank/Sunny Day support. Use sunny Day if in trouble, then I send out my next pokemon:

{magmortar} Magmortar @ Wise Glasses
Modest | Flame Body
252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
~Flamethrower
~Thunderbolt
~Psychic
~Solarbeam

Special Sweeper. Solarbeam against ground/bulky water types that threaten it. Can work effectively without Sunny Day support though.

{milotic} Milotic @ Leftovers
Calm | Marvel Scale
252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp Def
~Toxic
~Aqua Ring
~Recover
~Surf

Double Wall. Sponges any hit.

Edit: Remembered I forgot Milotic.


Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:29 am
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i havent rated in a while >.>

grindhouse wrote:
Well im kinda a nub still.and i need some tips.
this is my team


Cloyster @ Lefty. Shell Armor
Relaxed, 100 defence 252 Speed 152Sp.Atk
Surf
Ice Beam
Toxic Spikes
Explosion

I love my cloyster
relaxed is good in this case, but i dun understand the 252speedEVs. it will make it a rare-fast-tank, but giving at least some of those EVs in attack can make explosion,well, explosive :D i think regular spikes would be better, so heracross doesnt get a free guts boost. also, u lack a spinner on ur team so ice beam>rapid spin.

Togekiss@ No item. Serene Grace
Modest, 252 Sp.Att 252 Speed

Roost
Air Slash
Aura Sphere
IceBeam/tunderbolt/flamethrower

Not sure for a good move set
it cannot learn ice beam/T-bolt (but gee i wish). u can go with flamethrower but shadow ball is also a viable option. timid is the best nature for kiss, but what the heck. @lefites.

MamoSwine@ lefty, Oblivious
Adamant,252 Attack 252 speed

Ice fang
Rock Slide
EarthQuake
-------

not sure what attack to teach it
curse in the last spot FTW. ice shard>ice fang so when u curse up, u can still attack first. it can annoy alot of opponents in that regard. the other two attacks are fine, but try to split the EVs better since u'll be cursing anyway. 252atk/129hp/129def(or spDef) something along those lines

Swampert@ None yet. Torrent
Adamant, 252 attack 252 speed

Hammer Arm
Waterfall
EarthQuake
Protect
hmm... protect has got to go, maybe another curse-poke:
@lefites
curse
waterfall
EQ
avalanche/hammer arm/rock slide/stone edge
you have some options for the last move


Magmortar @ None. Flame Body
Modest, 252Sp.Atk 100 Hp 152 Spd

Solarbeam
Flamethrower
Sunnyday
psychic
i am unclear about the sunnybeam magmortar, but at least it should have maxed out spd in hopes in speeding out something. sunnybeam means no choice scarf, and cant make up for mag's below avg speed. 252spd/252spAtk/6hp. take out spAtk EVs instead of spdEVs, since mag really needs the spd, and will get STAB+sunnyday flamethrower anyway. u can also gamble with focus blast in the last spot.

These are all the pokemon i have for battles right now


if u have any questions/concerns, PM me, as this is my first rate in awhile.


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My group:

Empoleon @ Focus Sash/ NvrmeltIce
Lonley
Moves: Drill Peck
Grass Knot
Surf
Avalanche

Swellow @ Destiny Knot/ Focus Sash
Hasty
Aerial Ace
Quick Attack
Endure
Endeavor

Salamence @ Draco Plate
Mild
Crunch
Dragon Claw/ Dragon Dance
Dragon Breath/ Dragon Dance
Flamethrower

Ampharos @ Quick Claw
Lonley
Power Gem
Discharge
Signal Beam
Fire Punch

Lucario @ Black Belt
Sassy
Dark Pulse
Dragon Pulse
Reversal
Aura Sphere

Torterra @ Miracle Seed
Adamant
Woodhammer
Crunch
Earthquake
Leech Seed

Let me know which moves should be switched.
Big Thanks to you KOL40.


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Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:05 pm
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i'll try to get a rate in b4 i crash from red bull =l

audiovision wrote:
i'm so bad when it comes to making teams, ugh.
i haven't even begun to figure out items or evs, since i don't know if i like this team or not, so you don't need to bother with rating that part of it if it's too much trouble.

armaldo
jolly or adamant @ ?
. swords dance
. x-scissor
. earthquake
. rock slide
i remember there was an armaldo thread today and i was influenced. go with jolly, 252atk/252spd/6hp, and rock polish>swords dance. hopefully, after a polish, its ready to sweep.

milotic
calm @ ?
. surf
. ice beam
. dragon pulse
. recover ?
i like rest>recover to make use of milotic's underrated marvel scale (def x1.5 wen it has a status condition). 252spAtk/129def/129spDef (err i think im crashing =P)

leafeon
adamant @ ?
. baton pass
. swords dance
. substitute
. leaf blade

i'm thinking switching to a baton passer with calm mind for milotic, but i needed a grass move in there somewhere, ugh. i guess i could use leafeon for armaldo, and possibly remove swords dance in favor of another attack move.
well, grass moves have always been neglected, and theres a reason why: they suck. armaldo can be independent, since all it needs is 1 or 2 polishes to sweep. if u want a CM-passer, use an espyjump:
espeon @lefties
252spAtk/252spd/6atk
baton pass
calm mind
psychic
subs/shadow ball/something
try to CM behind subs, then opt to sweep with psychic, or BP.


houndoom
timid or modest @ ?
. nasty plot
. flamethrower
. dark pulse
. sludge bomb
wats up with houndoom being popular =l houndoom needs timid or choice scarf to outspeed (or attempt to) others. u can keep it the way it is, timid nature, @lefties, or HP somthing>nasty plot, and slap on scarf, @modest. either way, 252spAtk/252spd/6hp

girafarig
timid or modest @ ?
. thunderbolt
. psychic
. shadow ball
. ?
woohoo girafarig, a name that is the same spelling backwards O_o. HP fighting in the last spot if possible. @choice scarf again, modest nature. but y bother using girafarig? it sucks:
Porygon-Z @lefties/choice scarf
modest 252spAtk/252spd/6hp
t-bolt
ice beam
tri attack
nasty plot/shadow ball
pwns. (at least better than a girafarig)


bronzong
brave or relaxed @ ?
. toxic
. block
. gyro ball
. ?
neither; impish/careful, @lefties. u can go with rest/stealth rock for the last spot.


and after that, i will get another red bull :P


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Here my other team my 1st is for game play N battles

Slowking
Own Tempo
Modest
Surf
Ice Beam
Shadow Ball
Flamethrower

Lucario
Inner Focus
Modest
Aura Sphere
Water Pulse
Psychic
Dragon Pulse

Weavile
Pressure
Jolly
Aerial Ace
Brick Break
Ice Punch
Night Slash

Aerodactyl
Pressure
Jolly
Stone Edge
Iron Head
EQ
Dragon Claw

Torterra
Overgrow
Adamant
Seed Bomb
EQ
Curse
Stone Edge

Magmortar
Flame Body
Modest
Flamethrower
Sunny Day
Solarbeam
Thunderbolt

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My other teams :

Swampert
Torrent
Waterfall
EQ
Avalanche
Brick Break

Pinsir
Moldbreaker
Adamant
Stone Edge
EQ
Faint Attack
Megahorn

Roserade
Modest
Natural Cure
Energy Ball
Shadow Ball
Extrasensory
Sludge Bomb

Spirtomb
Psychic
Nasty Plot
Memento
Dark Pulse

Salamence
Intimidate
Jolly
Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
EQ
Fire Blast

Tyranitar
Sand Stream
Adamant
Crunch
EQ
Stone Edge
Aerial Ace

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[size=18][size=24]My Team: (will be used competitively against friends so i need 2 win lo0l)

Scizor @ Choice Band
Nature: Adamant
EV: 252Atk 164Spd 92Hp
1. X-Scissor
2. Steel Wing
3. Stone Edge/Baton Pass/Brick Break
4. Agility

Palkia @ Leftovers
Nature: Modest
EV 252Sp.Atk 252Spd 6Hp
1. Brine
2. Ice Beam
3. Earth Power
4. Spacial Rend

Gyarados @ Choice Band
Nature: Adamant
EV: 252Atk 20Hp 236Spd
1. Dragon Dance
2. Earthquake
3. Dragon Pulse
4. Stone Edge

Drapion @ Black Sludge/Poison Barb/Toxic Plate
Nature: Modest
EV: 252Sp.Atk 252Spd 6Hp
1. Cross Poison
2. Crunch
3. Toxic
4. Slash

Hitmonlee @ Salac Berry
Nature: Adamant
EV: 252Atk 252Spd 6Hp
1. Substitute
2. Reversal
3. Hi Jump Kick
4. Swords Dance/Bulk Up

Blissey @ Leftovers
Nature: Calm
EV: 252Hp 129Def 129Sp.Def
1. Heal Bell/Aromatherapy
2. Counter
3. Softboiled
4. Focus Punch

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Hey, working on a team for D/P and I was wondering if I could get a little help:

{blissey} @Leftovers/Natural Cure
Softboiled
Aromatharapy
Siesmic Toss
Thunder Wave/Toxic/Wil-O-Whisp (if it learns it, I can't remember right now...)

Basically, just an average Blissey set. Softboiled keeps it around forever while Aromatherapy and the stat move are for team support. Siesmic Toss for damage.

{dragonite} @???/Inner Focus
Outrage
Steel Wing/Brick Break
Fire Punch/ Thunderpunch
Dragon Dance

I'm not sure what to do for Dragonite. Steel Wing and Brick Break are both for rocks and ice types, but i think Brick Break has a better type coverage. I'm also confused on which punch to use.

{scizor} @Metrenome/Technician
Iron Head
Fury Cutter/X-Scissor
Agility
???

For Scizor, I kind of want to go with Fury Cutter because Technician gives it a boost for the earlier hits and combined with Agility, it could make him a formidible sweeper. Also, I don't know what to do with the last move at all.

{gyarados} @???/Intimidate
Aqua Tail
EQ
Ice Fang
Dragon Dance

Basically, he speaks for himself. Dragon Dance and Sweep.

{magnezone} @Leftovers/Magnet Pull
Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave
Barrier
Flash Cannon

I like Magnezone a lot, but I haven't been able to come up with a good moveset for him. Ideally, i'd like him to be a strong hitter who can act as a staller against phisical sweepers, but too many of them carry EQ. Really need help on this one.

{alakazam} @Focus Sash/Synchronize
Focus Blast
Shadow Ball
Psychic
???

I know the last move needs to be a supporting move, but I can't choose between Calm Mind (which works well with focus sash) or Recover (which doesn't, but might keep him around longer).

Well, that's it. Some of them are basic, yet effective, sets so sorry if you've seen them a million times before.


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ok this is my competitive team so rate away

{aerodactyl} @ Expert Belt/ Shell Bell
Jolly
Thunder Fang
Iron Head
Earthquake
Aerial Ace
Evs: 252 speed/attk 6 hp


{gengar} @ Fous Sash
Timid
Hypnosis
Shadow Ball
Psychic
T-bolt
Evs: 252 speed/ sp. attk 6 hp


{glaceon} @ Leftovers
Modest
Ice Beam
Water Pulse
Mirror Coat
???????
Evs: 252 speed/ sp. attk 6 hp

I have no idea what to put in for the last move. I was thinking maybe shadow ball?

{ambipom} @ Life Orb
Jolly
Fake Out
Last Resort
Evs: 252 speed/ attk 6hp
this move set is very deadly... trust me

{infernape} @ Scope Lens?
Jolly
Thunderpunch
Flare Blitz
Close Combat
??????????
Evs: 252 attk/ speed 6hp
i call him suicidal ape. He can take out a couple of pokes befor he dies.

{porygon-z} @ quick claw
Modest
Dark Pulse
Psychic
Ice Beam
T-bolt / Flamethrower / Hyper Beam
Evs: 252 speed/ sp. attk 6 hp
i need help on the last move. I am worried about bronzong so i want flamethrower but idk if that is the best choice

ok so this is my team and do your best plz. thx

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hay this is my newest team. give me your thoughts, thanks

Torterra@shell bell
stealth rock
leech seed
wood hammer
EQ

He leads, sets up stealth rock for flying/ice types that want to switch in. Leech seed to cause more switching + HP recovery. Shell bell cuts the recoil from STAB wood hammer in half and with leech seed active the recoil is virtually non-existant. EQ for STAB.


Skarmory@lefties
Spikes
Stealth rock
Roar
Steel Wing

Spiker with stealth rock incase torterra cant get it up (lol). Physical Wall.


Milotic@Lefties
Hypnosis
Recover
Ice Beam
Surf

Special Wall

Dragonite@Life Orb
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Waterfall
Thunderpunch

Physical sweeper


Charizard@Expert Belt
flamethrower
Air Slash
Focus Blast
Solar Beam/Dragon Pulse

Special Sweeper. Last Attack depends on last poke.


Either:
Dusclops@?????
Pain Split
WoW
Shadow Sneak
Curse

This things just rapes anything it comes across. Rapid spin killer and HP drainer

or

Umbreon@Heat Rock
Sunny Day
Moonlight
Toxic
Confuse Ray

Annoyer/Tank/supporter for Charizard

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Da best wrote:
Your second rate...
Rate my new team:thanks now I made changes

Heracross
Jolly
Guts
Megahorn
Rock Slide
Reversal
EQ
I can see what you're trying to get at here but I've one combo here that you'll love for sure: Swords Dance, Endure, Reversal and Night Slash.
1) You'll never have to fear any Type..you'll hit all Pokemon in the game for at least Neutral Damage.
2) They either get blasted by reversal or they get hit by a Powered Up Night Slash (That is, if they're resistant against Fightning Types, otherwise, do use Reversal.) cos you'll most likely have Swords Danced before. And, good news, 2 of the types whom Fighting types moves are weak at are the Ghost and Psychic types. Your Night Slash will cut through them like a Hot Knife through Butter.
3) Lastly, you must give it a Salac Berry in order for this combo to work at its fullest and make sure you max out its Speed by Hook or by Crook.


Rhyperior
Adamant
Soild Rock
EQ
Avalanche
Megahorn
Thunder Fang
Earthquake would fit in there Perfectly. Also, you might want to consider Migrating a Rhydon to the P/D versions with Thunder Punch taught as Thunder Punch > Thunder Fang. Or you can just breed a new one with a Thunder Punch as an Egg move. A Choice
Band would be a nice item for it to have.


Garchomp
Adamant
Sand Veil
Fire Blast is a Physical attack
Sword Dance
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
At last, I see someone who knows how well Swords Dance works with Garchomp...but one problem, never teach Special Moves to Physical Sweepers...that's what I always think. Do replace that with Crunch/Rockslide/Fire Fang, it works so much better.

Darkrai
Timid
Bad Dreams
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Dark Void
Dark Pulse
Darkrai became one of the Pokemon at the top of my list when I found out how Evil it can get. My combo is similar to yours, but I taught Double Team instead of Psychic as it works hand in hand with his Dark Void. Just put the foe to sleep and Double Team away. of course, you'll need a leftovers for this combo and you can always swap Dark Pulse for Ice Beam when necessary. Honestly, this combo is unstoppable...

Azelf
Levitate
Modest
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Flamethrower
Shadow Ball
Azelf is a very Powerful Sweeper because of its potential to double its
Sp. Atk with Nasty Plot, so do swap a move with that. I would suggest cancelling out Psychic as you would still be able to counter a lot of Pokemon. (There is no rule saying that you must teach a Pokemon a move that gets STAB bonuses whenever it can. To me, ability to counter more types > STAB bonuses.)


Milotic
Modest
Marvel Scale
Surf
Icebeam
Recover
Mirror Coat
I would suggest teaching Dragon Pulse/Hypnosis rather than Mirror Coat if you're intending to play it as a Sweeper.


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Flygon@ Sumthin
Adamant/252 Spd,252 Atk,6HP
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Crunch.

^Basic Sweeper,dunno the Item.

Latios@Soul Dew
Mild/252 Sp.Atk,252 Spd,6 HP.
Surf
Psychic
???
???

Yeah, i know its the Wrong Nature, but it being Shiny, cant have everything perfect. I was thinking Dragon Pulse instead of Surf, and maybe Bolt-Beam.


Hariyama@Toxic Orb.
Adamant/252 Atk,252 Spd,6 HP???
Close Combat
Bullet Punch
Facade
Fake-out??

It will have Guts, and Facade makes it just as powerfull. Dunno about the Spread.

Gyarados@Focus Sash
Jolly/252 Atk,252 Spd,6Hp.
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
???
???

Basic DDanser, stuck on the other moves, works good with E-Vire, which i also have in my Competitive battling PArty.

Gallade@Scope Lens
Adamant/252 Spd,252 Atk,6hp.
Brick Break
Leaf Blade
Psycho Cut
X-Scissor.

Dunno about this one, maybe i could convert into a Haxer. Need Halp.


Dragonite@Parsim Berry
Adamant/252 Spd,252 Atk,6Hp.
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Waterfall???
???

Another Basic DDancer, dunno about the other moves though.

There, thats that. Please Rate, i welcome CONSTRUCTIVE Critisism.

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I need this team rated by the lastest on sunday if that is possible. I don't need my EVs checked and/or rated. Thanks ahead. wow this is sorta late, not sure if u still wanted it rated, but im bored nonetheless.

Forretress @ Leftovers . Sturdy
Careful
Explosion
Gyro Ball
Stealth Rock
Earthquake
careful wont solve its fire weakness, so go with impish/relaxed (the latter is better) instead. forretress is more durable spinner than hitmontop so rapid spin>EQ.

PorygonZ @ Leftovers . Download
Timid
Icebeam
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Tri Attack
download is risky, but a free spAtk boost is worth it IMO. however, it doesnt have adaptability which makes tri attack pretty meh... give it a modest nature as well and slap on choice specs, but adaptability is the better ability here.

Ninetales @ Flame Orb . Flash Fire
Timid
Fire Blast
Nasty Plot
Energy Ball
Hypnosis
does flame orb/flash fire work? if u've really tried this, then stay with it, but i dont think it works/u tried it. if it doesnt, @lefties. dark pulse>energy for more coverage or if ur scared of TTar, then keep it as is.

Cradily @ Big Root . Suction Cups
Bold
Giga Drain
Ancientpower
Sludgebomb
Wring Out
i dont think cradily is fit for sweeping, but maybe as a drainer/spiker/tank sort of thing. mega drain>giga drain for more PP. leech seed>wring out, stealth rock>ancientpower, and barrier/rest/mirror coat/something>sludge bomb.

Garchomp @ Leftovers . Sand Veil
Adamant
Fire Fang
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Sword Dance
jolly would've been better w/ swords dance. stone edge/rock slide>fire fang because not only ice types carry ice atks, and stone edge/rock slide hits them harder.

Hitmontop @ Focus Band . Technician
Jolly
Bulk Up
Bullet Punch
Mach Punch
Rapid Spin
no need for jolly since all these moves are priority moves, go with adamant instead. an good combo would be focus sash/endeavor/punch for a quick KO. for that, @focus sash, endeavor>rapid spin. other than that, hitmontop sucks (low speed, below avg attack, not good for sweeping)


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{infernape}
Physical Sweeper
Leftovers

Close Combat-STAB
Flame Wheel-STAB
Thunder Punch-Weakness coverage
Earthquake-See previous answer


{gallade}
Physical Sweeper
Leftovers

Psycho Cut-STAB
Leaf Blade-Could be replaced
Night Slash-See leaf blade
Close Combat-STAB


{vaporeon}
Special Sweeper
Leftovers

Surf-STAB
Ice Beam- Weakness coverage
Dig-Weakness Coverage
Trump Card- Yes, it is a move. Eevee learns it... at lvl 56 or so. This is a filler, can be replaced.


{togekiss}
Special Sweeper
King's rock (King's rock + Air slash = I win!)

Magical Leaf- filler
Aura Sphere-filler
Air Slash-STAB
Flamethrower-filler

That one could stand an improvement


{metagross}
Physical Wall
Leftovers

Protect-Every wall should know protect
Substitute- And substitute
Toxic-Use at begining of battle to destroy opponent as Metagross protects himself and rests
Rest- Every wall needs a healing move


{umbreon}
Mixed Wall
Take a wild guess

Same as Metagross, but with moonlight instead of rest

What do you think?


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bushin wrote:

If you don't understand my rate, feel free to pm.
Hey what's up?
Now thanks to my beloved pokéradar i
present my *Shiny Team*

Hinata Female
{tyranitar} @liechi b. *Shiny*
Adamant
Hp & Att 200 Speed:110
Sand Stream
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Crunch
-Rock Polish

Ok...First i use rock polish for boosting my speed,
then if i can survive the first attack,my little Hinata
gain a attack boost...and hits the foe big time...
If you want the Speed, go with Dragon Dance instead of Rock Polish because you get both Speed and Attack bonuses. Also, Tyranitar has very High Defense and Sp. Def stats (Thanks to its Sandstream ability.) on top of its 300+ Hp so I seriously don't think a single attack can do so much harm unless of course, its a Super Effective attack and even then, how do you know that your Hp left is low enough or "High" enough to activate the Liechi Berry? Therefore, a Leftovers/Chesto berry (For Rest if you feel like teaching it.) would be much better.

Skytalla Female
{skarmory} @Lum B. *Shiny*
Impish
Hp & Def Max
Sturdy
-????
-Toxic
-Stealth Rock/Spikes
-Roar

I don't use skarmory that much but i'm open to suggestions...
I use after Hinata, maybe to counter some pesky fight or ground type
sweepers...
If you want to counter Fighting types, you would want to teach Drill Peck. Also, a Quick Claw might come in handy cos you would want to Stealth Rock/Spikes first.

{marowak} *Shiny* @Thick Club
Careful
Hp:110 Att & S.Def:200
trait:Any of the two...
-EQ
-Rock Slide
-????
-????

I simple dunno what to do with it...
remember i can't breed those...
I don't really think Marowak is that good a Pokemon to be used in battles cos it gets owned by sweepers (Which are so damm common now...) but anyway, this is what I think a good moveset for Marowak would be: Substitute, Focus Punch, Bone Rush and Rockslide/Iron Head.

{togekiss} *Shiny* @Salac B
Serious
Hp:150 Sp.Att:180 Speed:180
Serene Grace
-Aura Sphere
-Air Slash
-Flamethrower
-Nasty Plot

Looks like hinata...First use nasty plot,if survives the first blow with
low hp,gain salac boost,adding the flinchax
Again, it's too risky to give Togekiss a Salac berry because you might not be lucky enough to activate the Salac Berry. Also, Togekiss, when played correctly, can become an Uber Pokemon. Here's how I play it, the Perma Flinch style. First of all, get a Timid nature one and max out its Speed and Sp. Atk. Then you give it a King's Rock and teach it Air Slash. The other moves are Thunder Wave, Shadow Ball and Aura Sphere.
The first thing you should do is consider the possibilities of whether the Foe may be faster. Like if you see a Weavile, it'll most likely be faster so that's when you know you should use Thunder Wave because the order of turns depend entirely on Speed. Thus if you were slower and you lowered the foe's Speed the first time you attacked, you get to move again the next turn because the game now reads your Pokemon as faster. After that you can just Air Slash away and you'll see that the foe won't even have a chance to retaliate. However, if you are quite sure that the you are faster, like if you see a Snorlax or a Slowking/bro, then you should just Air Slash away from the start.


{lickilicky} *Shiny* @Leftovers
Adamant
Hp & Att:Max
????
-Focus Punch
-Power Whip
-EQ
-Substitute
Earhquake/Rock Slide would fit in there or you could just swap it and Power Whip with Ice Punch/Thunder Punch/Fire Punch.

That's it...


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well... it appears that u r next, not that we skipped u, but nonetheless, im not here to argue and im bored so i'll rate

bluestrike wrote:
Ok! Another team. This is only for casual battles with friends, so i dont think i need a rapidspinner/baton passer etc.

{porygon-z} @ ???
-Tri Attack
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Nasty Plot
others think nasty plot will pwn and i agree... if ur able to last a couple or so attacks, as pory's defenses and speed are questionable. @lefties, but u should also consider shadow ball/focus blast/any special attack>nasty plot and slap on choice scarf.

{skarmory} @ ???
-Drill Peck
-Spikes
-Whirlwind/Roar
-Roost/Rest
roost in the last spot, and u also can go with stealth rock somewhere in there. @lefties/big root(for item clause)/shed shell(if you know a magnezone/probopass lurks in ur opponent).

{blissey} @ Leftovers
-T-Wave
-Aromatherapy
-Seismic Toss
-Softboiled
umm... good. >.>

{swampert} @ ???
-Curse
-Earthquake
-Avalanche
-vv See Below vv

My fourth move is my problem here. Ground + Ice only has 4 resists, so maybe a third attacking move is not essential.
Maybe rest/protect/hammer arm/body slam/return/toxic/double team/roar? I only said roar because I know my friend has a Gallade with leaf blade.
=death for swampert.

roar goes last, so gallade will still own you. heres one thing missing in that moveset:waterfall. good STAB and physical, u just cant go wrong with it and its a no-doubter. @lefties

{umbreon} @ ???
-Wish
-Toxic
-Baton-Pass
-Mean Look/Double Team

I need a sixth, and I am very unsure about Umbreon. I liek SkarmBliss, and i quite want a wisher, but I really dont know. Your thoughts?
umbreon, plain simple, rocks. u want a wishpasser and umbreon will set you free. go with mean look for the last move for a toxi-tank, wishpasser, and mean look-passer all in one.


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Thunder_dude7 wrote:

Feel free to PM if you don't understand anything.

{infernape}
Physical Sweeper
Leftovers

Close Combat-STAB
Flame Wheel-STAB
Thunder Punch-Weakness coverage
Earthquake-See previous answer
The last 2 moves are fine, just swap Close Combat and Flame Wheel with Blaze Kick (Breed) and Swords Dance. I'm sure there's no need for me to explain why you shold teach Blaze Kick so I'll move on to Swords dance. First of all, Swords Dance is an extremely nice move to teach Physical sweepers as it gives their abilities to "Sweep" a much needed boost.

{gallade}
Physical Sweeper
Leftovers

Psycho Cut-STAB
Leaf Blade-Could be replaced
Night Slash-See leaf blade
Close Combat-STAB
In my opinion, Earthquake, Rock Slide, X-Scissors/Leaf Blade and Swords Dance would be better. Reason being, you'll still be able to counter many Pokmon and also max out its Sweeper capabilities at the same time.

{vaporeon}
Special Sweeper
Leftovers

Surf-STAB
Ice Beam- Weakness coverage
Dig-Weakness Coverage
Trump Card- Yes, it is a move. Eevee learns it... at lvl 56 or so. This is a filler, can be replaced.
I suggest you teach Shadow Ball and Rest + Chesto Berry Combo instead of Dig and Trump Card cos Vaporeon has a pitiful attack and also because you can still counter many Pokemon along with the ability to heal yourself.

{togekiss}
Special Sweeper
King's rock (King's rock + Air slash = I win!)

Magical Leaf- filler
Aura Sphere-filler
Air Slash-STAB
Flamethrower-filler

That one could stand an improvement
First of all I have to clarify 1 thing, any Pokemon that is supposed to be a sweeper has to have a Speed of at least near 300, any thing lower will be classified under Slow or Average in competitive Battling however much it may seem to own in the normal game's Battle Tower. Therefore, as Togekiss's top Speed is only 284, it may pretty well get owned before it can even put its Flinching tactic into atction. Thus, I'll suggest you replace Magical Leaf with Thunder Wave so as to get rid of this Problem and replace Flamethrower with Shadow Ball so that it'll be able to at least hit all Pokemon in the Game for neutral damage.

{metagross}
Physical Wall
Leftovers

Protect-Every wall should know protect
Substitute- And substitute
Toxic-Use at begining of battle to destroy opponent as Metagross protects himself and rests
Rest- Every wall needs a healing move
This combo is doomed to failure and you're not putting Metagross's abilities to good use if you're playing it this way, so I suggest the Sweeper class Metagross. Etc: A moveset consisting of Meteor Mash, Earthquake, Zen Head Butt and Explosion OR Ice Punch, Thunder Punch, Earthquake/Rest + Chesto berry combo and Meteor Mash along with 252 EVs in Atk & Spd.

{umbreon}
Mixed Wall
Take a wild guess

Same as Metagross, but with moonlight instead of rest
Umbreon fits more as a wall, I'll agree on that part. But I have a Super support combo that you'll might want to try out: Double Team, Yawn/Toxic, Wish and Attract. Just Attract, Yawn, and when the Foe is asleep just Double Team away. Baton Pass, Attract and Wish is there to max out its support capabilities. Note that this combo is entirely based on support so don't worry about why it doesn't even have an offensive move if you want to teach Yawn instead of Toxic.

What do you think?
It seems that you're very into STAB bonuses. I'll advise against putting that as priority when choosing moves cos to me, Ability to Counter more Types > STAB bonuses.


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Thanks for the rate. Any ideas for a sixth pokemon for my team?

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u havent been skipped (i also feel that complaining is a lame way to boost post counts) >.> but someone (i mite have to do this) has to keep a list of people who are still want rates so i can keep track

monkeyboi07 wrote:
My Team: (will be used competitively against friends so i need 2 win lo0l)

Scizor @ Choice Band
Nature: Adamant
EV: 252Atk 164Spd 92Hp
1. X-Scissor
2. Steel Wing
3. Stone Edge/Baton Pass/Brick Break
4. Agility

is this ur opener? if so, have baton pass in that 3rd slot to escape from harm and still have that speed boost for another poke. u can also run swords dance instead of steel wing, since it doesnt have much type coverage anyway:
scizor@lefties
adamant ur EV spread is OK (consider spDef/Def EVs though)
x-scissor
baton pass
agility
swords dance
for a leadoff and baton passer.


Palkia @ Leftovers
Nature: Modest
EV 252Sp.Atk 252Spd 6Hp
1. Brine
2. Ice Beam
3. Earth Power
4. Spacial Rend
surf>brine, and maybe t-bolt>earth power for a boltbeam effect.

Gyarados @ Choice Band
Nature: Adamant
EV: 252Atk 20Hp 236Spd
1. Dragon Dance
2. Earthquake
3. Dragon Pulse
4. Stone Edge
jolly couldve been better, @lefties if u wanna DDance. waterfall>dragon pulse (y pulse anyway? working off its horrible spAtk). if u do want gyara to hold choice band, then ice fang>dragon dance (which is the better choice, since u have a BPing scizor)

Drapion @ Black Sludge/Poison Barb/Toxic Plate
Nature: Modest
EV: 252Sp.Atk 252Spd 6Hp
1. Cross Poison
2. Crunch
3. Toxic
4. Slash
ur all over the place on this one >.> go with jolly nature. toxic, i think, was a random move that looked good on a poison poke, but it isnt. drapion is a sweeper so EQ>toxic. also, u can try to hax with this poke:
drapion@scope lens/black sludge
jolly 252atk/252spd/6hp
cross poison
night slash
EQ/ice fang
swords dance
a poke that can sweep and stand alone, if ur scizor dies.


Hitmonlee @ Salac Berry
Nature: Adamant
EV: 252Atk 252Spd 6Hp
1. Substitute
2. Reversal
3. Hi Jump Kick
4. Swords Dance/Bulk Up
the moveset has a nice 3move combo... that works on better pokes. endure>subs so have that endure-salac-reversal combo. blaze kick/stone edge>hi jump kick for type coverage.

Blissey @ Leftovers
Nature: Calm
EV: 252Hp 129Def 129Sp.Def
1. Heal Bell/Aromatherapy
2. Counter
3. Softboiled
4. Focus Punch
blissey needs 252def/129hp/129spDef to take the 1 physical attack it needs to survive (u cant count on scizor much as a physical sponge) seismic toss/ice beam>focus punch (err WTF... 10 base stat in atk is not going to do much on a weavile). counter is OK but consider T-wave to help the sweepers that'll be switching in.



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{tentacruel} @ leftovers/poison barb/???
hardy
evs: 129 Def., 129 S. Def, 252 Speed
water pulse
barrier
toxic spikes
poison jab


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