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4ever_bug_catcher Ace Trainer Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:14 pm Posts: 306 Location: lawl.	Pokemaniac wrote: Oh and that Plusle works out well. i find that very hard to believe i'll keep that in mind the next i rate your pokes, since you are a frequent customer and i wouldn't confuse a batch of 6 pokemon as a team.
Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:59 pm

Sapphirath Pokemon Ranger Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:25 am Posts: 627 Location: Singapore	bluestrike wrote: This is a slightly different request. Here are 12 of my pokes, and I would like your help in designing a couple of teams with them. The reason being, I have these twelve pokemon, but I dont know how to use them effectively. Please help. Thanks much, Bluestrike Pardon me but can u list down what EVs, Natures and Items your Pokemon have as well? This way, we'll be able to rate with greater accuracy...
Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:38 pm

Pokemaniac Pokemon Ranger Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:27 pm Posts: 920 Location: Canada	I finally got the last team member it's complete! Shine @Leftovers Jolly\|Synchronize ~Toxic ~Mean Look ~Substitute ~Double Team Toxi-Trapper and Tank @Salac Berry Jolly\|Swarm ~Megahorn ~Endure ~Earth Quake ~Reversal End-rever Shine @Petaya Berry Naughty\|Blaze ~Sunny Day ~Solar Beam ~Flame Thrower ~Focus Blast/Rest Special Sweeper @Life Orb Adamant\|Motor Drive ~Thunder Punch ~Earth Quake ~Ice Punch ~Fire Punch Physical Sweeper @Expert Belt Lonely\|Stead Fast ~Aura Sphere ~Earth Quake ~Psychic ~Shadow Claw Mixed Sweeper Shine @Leftovers Tmid\|Levitate ~Calm Mind ~Psychic ~Dragon Pulse ~Ice Beam Special Sweeper and Special Sponge _________________ Pokemon Pearl FC:2749 9225 9473 Up for a battle anytime! Just PM me.
Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:31 pm

4ever_bug_catcher Ace Trainer Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:14 pm Posts: 306 Location: lawl.	Pokemaniac wrote: I finally got the last team member it's complete! ~so is this really a team? Shine @Leftovers Jolly\|Synchronize ~Toxic ~Mean Look ~Substitute ~Double Team Toxi-Trapper and Tank ~jolly... meh. impish would would better. too late to get baton pass as well, i presume. If double team is allowed (in most cases, it won't) then go with it, but put in payback/moonlight over it. @Salac Berry Jolly\|Swarm ~Megahorn ~Endure ~Earth Quake ~Reversal End-rever ~good luck against gengar. night slash>earthquake. Shine @Petaya Berry Naughty\|Blaze ~Sunny Day ~Solar Beam ~Flame Thrower ~Focus Blast/Rest Special Sweeper ~naughty with all special attacks?go with modest/timid if you want this build. will-o-wisp is also a nice possibility in the last spot. @Life Orb Adamant\|Motor Drive ~Thunder Punch ~Earth Quake ~Ice Punch ~Fire Punch Physical Sweeper ~brick break/cross chop>fire punch. expert belt would fit nicer IMO. thunderbolt is also nice to take down skarm, but thunder punch will suffice as well. @Expert Belt Lonely\|Stead Fast ~Aura Sphere ~Earth Quake ~Psychic ~Shadow Claw Mixed Sweeper ~dragon pulse>psychic to hit dragons effectively. psychic is there for no reason from where i look at. Shine @Leftovers Tmid\|Levitate ~Calm Mind ~Psychic ~Dragon Pulse ~Ice Beam Special Sweeper and Special Sponge ~thunderbolt>psychic to nail gyarados and empoleon. also consider draco meteor for a hit-and-run, but that is mostly for a latios.
Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:53 pm

thekiller0703 Pokemon Ranger Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:19 pm Posts: 693 Location: On the left side of the street... Take THAT Society!	Pokemaniac wrote: I finally got the last team member it's complete! Shine @Leftovers Jolly\|Synchronize ~Toxic ~Mean Look ~Substitute It needs some way to heal, so either Wish or Moonlight ~Double Team Toxi-Trapper and Tank Jolly isn't good, and but I know you want the shiny... If you breed a new one, make sure it's a good nature and maybe has Baton Pass @Salac Berry Jolly\|Swarm ~Megahorn ~Endure ~Earth Quake Night Slash ~Reversal End-rever Well, a good idea that someone has used was putting a Choice Scarf on it instead of Salac. Then you switch, and when one of your pokes dies you switch Hera in and sweep from there. Night Slash>EQ for ghosts. Adamant is usually better than Jolly if you have close to max speed IV's. Shine @Petaya Berry <-Might as well go for Salac, maybe Life Orb Naughty D:\|Blaze ~Sunny Day ~Solar Beam ~Flame Thrower ~Focus Blast Special Sweeper That set is OK, but I like this one most: Typhlosion@Choice Scarf Modest \| Blaze Eruption Filler Filler Filler Yep, that's it. A good HP (Electric, Grass) and maybe Focus Blast for the fillers. Works great against unprepared teams. @Life Orb Jolly\|Motor Drive ~Thunder Punch ~Earth Quake ~Ice Punch ~Fire Punch Cross Chop/Brick Break Physical Sweeper Looks OK, but to avoid Skarm you could replace Jolly with Hasty and replace Thunderpunch with Thunderbolt. @Expert Belt Lonely\|Stead Fast ~Aura Sphere ~Earth Quake ~Psychic ~Shadow Claw Mixed Sweeper Looks good. Shine @Leftovers Tmid\|Levitate ~Calm Mind ~Psychic ~Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor ~Ice Beam Special Sweeper and Special Sponge Looks great... Shiny Timid Latias, lucky :p _________________ <center> http://www.phpbber.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=bulkywaters <- Go
Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:48 pm

Bluestrike Dragon Tamer Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:32 pm Posts: 204 Location: Avatar by Me!!!	I edited my previous post for you. _________________ No signature here....
Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:45 am

jupiter Pokemon Trainer Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:14 am Posts: 45 Location: philippines	sorry for the lack of EV's,natures and items...i dont own pokemon DP yet so i lack in nature.in EV's i dont know ahihihi and i will give the items once i obtain pokemon DP versions bec DP versions have new items I think but raters can u give me the right EV's items and nature now plsss??? the types of the moves of my pokemon consist of all types in order for them to defeat all types of pokemon and most of their moves are used to cover their weaknesses and raters if my pokemon is used on the pokemon comparer here in psypoke and the stats of one of my pokemon is ugly plss replace them w/the pokemon that has higher stats or better stats than them but the sam type for example my aerodactyl can fly than replace them w/a flying pokemon too.. if i have a mistake placing those moves on one of my pokemon or if that move was not the best for that pokemon replace them w/a better move ok???ok here we go!!! aerodactyl ~flamethrower ~thunderfang ~fly ~earthquake sceptile ~leafblade ~irontail ~rockslide ~earthquake empoleon ~surf ~drillpeck ~earthquake ~flashcannon lucario ~aurasphere ~darkpulse ~waterpulse ~psychic garchomp ~dragonpulse ~flamethrower ~irontail ~StoneEdge DIALGA ~dragonpulse ~irontail ~AerialAce ~icebeam so raters how do u rate it?excellent?good?average?reasonable yet not recommended?or do not take seriously?
Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:53 am

GaZZuM Bug Catcher Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:32 pm Posts: 2 Location: Manchester, England	Heya, this'll be my first post ^ ^ was hoping I could get a little input on my planned team: Gallade @ Expert Belt {Steadfast} Careful [EVs: Attack, Sp.Defence and 6 Speed] Psycho Cut Close Combat Night Slash Thunder Wave Azelf @ Life Orb - {Levitate} Rash [EVs: Sp. Attack, Speed and 6 Attack] Psychic Energy Ball Explosion Nasty Plot Arcanine @ Life Orb {Flash Fire} Naive [EVs: Attack, Speed and 6 Sp. Attack] Overheat Flare Blitz ExtremeSpeed Thunder Fang Dusknoir @ Leftovers {Pressure} Impish [EVs: Defence, Sp. Def and 6 Attack] Shadow Sneak Will-O-Wisp Pain Split Ice Punch Gengar @ ??? {Levitate} Hasty, [EVs: Sp. Attack, Speed and 6 Sp. Def] Shadow Ball ThunderBolt Focus Blast Destiny Bond Electivire @ Expert Belt {Motor Drive} Hasty [EVs: Attack, Speed and 6 Sp. Defence] Thunder Punch Brick Break Fire Punch Earthquake All I'm really missing is an item for Gengar. Anything that needs fixing?
Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:03 pm

4ever_bug_catcher Ace Trainer Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:14 pm Posts: 306 Location: lawl.	GaZZuM wrote: Heya, this'll be my first post ^ ^ welcome to psypoke, buddy ^_^ was hoping I could get a little input on my planned team: Gallade @ Expert Belt {Steadfast} Careful [EVs: Attack, Sp.Defence and 6 Speed] Psycho Cut Close Combat Night Slash Thunder Wave doesn't really matter that much, but move those 6EVs somewhere else, like HP. based on your EVs, close combat may seem a little bit suicidal to your liking, so go with brick break instead for durability. thunder wave is OK, and night slash hits ghosts, and psycho cut takes care of heracross, so good there as well. Azelf @ Life Orb - {Levitate} Rash [EVs: Sp. Attack, Speed and 6 Attack] Psychic Energy Ball Explosion Nasty Plot naive/hasty would've been better, but what are the chances of getting good-natured legends anyway? flamethrower is needed here to hit incoming steel-typed walls, or thunderbolt to hit bulky waters. put it over explosion (very hesitant to say that though). Arcanine @ Life Orb {Flash Fire} Naive [EVs: Attack, Speed and 6 Sp. Attack] Overheat Flare Blitz ExtremeSpeed Thunder Fang when arcanine is short on HP, I think flare blitz would be the suicidal move of choice instead of overheat. With better EV spreading (158atk/100spAtk/252spd perhaps), overheat will be much better. Dusknoir @ Leftovers {Pressure} Impish [EVs: Defence, Sp. Def and 6 Attack] Shadow Sneak Will-O-Wisp Pain Split Ice Punch it does look like your team is dragon-shy, so I would leave ice punch alone. however, you've made 1 fatal mistake: GIVE IT MAX HP EVS Gengar @ ??? {Levitate} Hasty, [EVs: Sp. Attack, Speed and 6 Sp. Def] Shadow Ball ThunderBolt Focus Blast Destiny Bond hasty? anyways, wide lens is an option to raise focus blast's accuracy to respectability. Electivire @ Expert Belt {Motor Drive} Hasty [EVs: Attack, Speed and 6 Sp. Defence] Thunder Punch Brick Break Fire Punch Earthquake hasty again? your team is a bit dragon shy, so try to rebreed for ice punch, cross chop perhaps. ice punch is E-vire's only defense against ground types and cross chop, combined with thunderbolt, makes it a good skarmbliss killer. All I'm really missing is an item for Gengar. Anything that needs fixing? having only one tank on a team won't save it. you'll get stomped by an outraging Garchomp/Dragonite, so stick in a skarmory/bronzong in, probably over gallade.
Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:01 pm

GaZZuM Bug Catcher Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:32 pm Posts: 2 Location: Manchester, England	4ever_bug_catcher wrote: GaZZuM wrote: Heya, this'll be my first post ^ ^ welcome to psypoke, buddy ^_^ Well ta very much! was hoping I could get a little input on my planned team: Gallade @ Expert Belt {Steadfast} Careful [EVs: Attack, Sp.Defence and 6 Speed] Psycho Cut Close Combat Night Slash Thunder Wave doesn't really matter that much, but move those 6EVs somewhere else, like HP. based on your EVs, close combat may seem a little bit suicidal to your liking, so go with brick break instead for durability. thunder wave is OK, and night slash hits ghosts, and psycho cut takes care of heracross, so good there as well. I'll try and get my hands on another Brick Break then Azelf @ Life Orb - {Levitate} Rash [EVs: Sp. Attack, Speed and 6 Attack] Psychic Energy Ball Explosion Nasty Plot naive/hasty would've been better, but what are the chances of getting good-natured legends anyway? flamethrower is needed here to hit incoming steel-typed walls, or thunderbolt to hit bulky waters. put it over explosion (very hesitant to say that though). Ooh, to be honest I don't think i can bring myself to let explosion go, and Energy Ball hits the bulkier waters too, not to mention ground/rock types... to be honest, none of my friends are too Steel-centric (i only really play against my friends anyways ) Arcanine @ Life Orb {Flash Fire} Naive [EVs: Attack, Speed and 6 Sp. Attack] Overheat Flare Blitz ExtremeSpeed Thunder Fang when arcanine is short on HP, I think flare blitz would be the suicidal move of choice instead of overheat. With better EV spreading (158atk/100spAtk/252spd perhaps), overheat will be much better. My Arcanine's Attack is higher than it's Sp. Attack, hence why it's moves are more Physical... The logic behind having both Overheat and Flare Blitz is that I can open up with a Life Orb'ed, STAB'ed Overheat for massive damage, then when my Sp. Attack gets lowered resort to Flare Blitz. is that just too daft? I dunno, made sense at the time lol Dusknoir @ Leftovers {Pressure} Impish [EVs: Defence, Sp. Def and 6 Attack] Shadow Sneak Will-O-Wisp Pain Split Ice Punch it does look like your team is dragon-shy, so I would leave ice punch alone. however, you've made 1 fatal mistake: GIVE IT MAX HP EVS But the less HP I have, the more effective Pain Split is... it's kinda like my ace in the hole Gengar @ ??? {Levitate} Hasty, [EVs: Sp. Attack, Speed and 6 Sp. Def] Shadow Ball ThunderBolt Focus Blast Destiny Bond hasty? anyways, wide lens is an option to raise focus blast's accuracy to respectability. Wide Lens it is Electivire @ Expert Belt {Motor Drive} Hasty [EVs: Attack, Speed and 6 Sp. Defence] Thunder Punch Brick Break Fire Punch Earthquake hasty again? your team is a bit dragon shy, so try to rebreed for ice punch, cross chop perhaps. ice punch is E-vire's only defense against ground types and cross chop, combined with thunderbolt, makes it a good skarmbliss killer. Arg raising a new Electivire just for Ice Punch and Cross Chop doesn't sound too appealing... nor does getting rid of my Gallade... I see your point about being weak to dragons though, kinda dunno what to do about it All I'm really missing is an item for Gengar. Anything that needs fixing? having only one tank on a team won't save it. you'll get stomped by an outraging Garchomp/Dragonite, so stick in a skarmory/bronzong in, probably over gallade. on a personal note, thanks Bug Catcher for such a helpful reply to my VERY FIRST post on here ^^ t'is appreciated _________________ _________________________________ Diamond and Pearl FC: GaZZuM - 2749 8563 7135
Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:41 pm

jupiter Pokemon Trainer Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:14 am Posts: 45 Location: philippines	hey why are my pokemon party havent rated yet???plsss rate them plsss...and also reccomend me some good movesets,items,ev's,dv's for my pokemon....
Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:26 am

Zenrot Psychic Trainer Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:02 am Posts: 78	Hey, i finished some movesets, wondering what you guys thought Pikachu @ Light Ball Grass Knot Thunder Bolt Volt Tackle Iron Tail Suicide Sweeper Houndoom @ Brightpowder Flamethrower Dark Pulse Nasty Plot Shadow Ball Special Sweeper Electivire @ ? Cross Chop Thunder Punch Ice Punch EQ Physical Sweeper Charizard @ ? Flamethrower Heat Wave Air Slash Shadow Claw Special Sweeper Kingdra @ Damp Rock Ice Beam Rain Dance Hydro Pump Dragon Pulse Special Sweeper Dragonite @ ? Dragon Rush Dragon Dance Fire Blast Wing Attack/Roost Mixed Sweeper Also, can you reccomend some sets for these pokes --> Espeon, Ambipom, Carnivine, Mismagius, Gliscor, Slaking, Exploud, Crawdaunt, Weavile, Dusknoir. Sorry for such a long post guys! dont feel like you need to do them all, Im just curious about these for team use, I dont want to give you a crazy workload. _________________ I want to be The very best Like no one ever was
Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:30 am

Pokemaniac Pokemon Ranger Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:27 pm Posts: 920 Location: Canada	Hi everyone! It's rating time again. I've been breeding and getting some Pokemon I like and want to see how they are so far..... @Payapa Berry Adamant\|Anticipation ~Poison Jab ~Cross Chop ~Bulk Up ~Earth Quake @Liechi Berry Impish\|Stead Fast ~Leaf Blade ~Psycho Cut ~Close Combat ~Swords Dance @Choice Scarf Lax\|Mold Breaker ~Head Smash ~Zen Headbutt ~Rock Polish ~Earth Quake This is it....is it good? _________________ Pokemon Pearl FC:2749 9225 9473 Up for a battle anytime! Just PM me.
Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:51 pm

generic_username Bug Catcher Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:31 am Posts: 7	sorry i posted this somewhere else before, last time i was here we didn't have this topic , this team is underused only, and i need some help with items. Mightyena @ ??? Adamant \| Intimidate Atk 252, Spd 252 Attract Swagger Sucker punch Fire fang General sweeper/annoyer, nothing particualy unusual Arbok @ ??? Adamant \| Intimidate Atk 252, spd 252 Gunk shot Crunch Ice fang Haze yes, i know this is NU rather than UU, but i can't see anything wrong with it, it has an avarage statline, good moveset, can can ocver up it's weaknesses. Bastiodon @ leftovers Relaxed \| Sturdy Def 252, Spec Def 252 Iron head Toxic Block Earthquake wall/toxi-trapper. A bit worrying with his weaknesses, but i'll try to block them before they can switch to a fighting, ground, or water type. Cherrim @ ??? Modest \| Flower gift Spec atk 252, spd 252 Sunny day Aromatherepy Solar beam Facade Sunny day/solar beam, heal beller (or whatever), good fast sweep if you didn't need sunny day, can't deal with weaknesses though Ampharos @ ??? Modest \| Static Spec Atk 252, Hp 252 Thunder Thunder wave Signal beam Power gem terrible moveset, but worth it for the special attack Noctowl @ ??? Timid \| Insomnia Spd 252, spec atk 129, hp 129 Roost Psycho shift Extra sensory Air slash half way between a half decent fighter and a sponge. Thanks ^_^ _________________ frowning on your shenanigans Last edited by generic_username on Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:26 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:25 pm

4ever_bug_catcher Ace Trainer Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:14 pm Posts: 306 Location: lawl.	jupiter wrote: sorry for the lack of EV's,natures and items...i dont own pokemon DP yet so i lack in nature.in EV's i dont know ahihihi and i will give the items once i obtain pokemon DP versions bec DP versions have new items I think but raters can u give me the right EV's items and nature now plsss??? the types of the moves of my pokemon consist of all types in order for them to defeat all types of pokemon and most of their moves are used to cover their weaknesses and raters if my pokemon is used on the pokemon comparer here in psypoke and the stats of one of my pokemon is ugly plss replace them w/the pokemon that has higher stats or better stats than them but the sam type for example my aerodactyl can fly than replace them w/a flying pokemon too.. if i have a mistake placing those moves on one of my pokemon or if that move was not the best for that pokemon replace them w/a better move ok???ok here we go!!! this is going to be the most time-consuming rate at first glance... aerodactyl ~flamethrower ~thunderfang ~fly ~earthquake why the hell are you giving aerodactyl a special attack? and it has to be flamethrower, of all moves? fly? Aerodactyl@choice band aerial ace rock slide earthquake fire fang fire fang hits bronzong, rock slide over stone edge because it gets STAB and higher accuracy. sceptile ~leafblade ~irontail ~rockslide ~earthquake a little bit better, but iron tail is there for no reason, so go with swords dance instead. empoleon ~surf ~drillpeck ~earthquake ~flashcannon again, physical attacks on a pokemon that is usually a special sweeper? i understand the element of surprise, but go with either physical or special, not both. Empoleon@leftovers/choce specs surf ice beam grass knot flash cannon/aqua ring/stealth rock ice beam hampers dragons accordingly and grass knot is for fellow water-types. Empoleon@choice band drill peck waterfall earthquake rock slide a gimmick, but if you want a physical sweeping empoleon, this is the best one. lucario ~aurasphere ~darkpulse ~waterpulse ~psychic no water pulse. aura sphere will do better against the likes of hippowdon and garchomp. go with flash cannon/dragon pulse over water pulse, the latter is prefered. garchomp ~dragonpulse ~flamethrower ~irontail ~StoneEdge I'm... a little mixed here, literally. why you don't have earthquake in there is very confusing to me: Garchomp@choice band/leftovers fire fang/swords dance outrage/dragon claw earthquake stone edge/crunch fire fang w/ choice band or swords dance w/ lefties OR if you're trying to make this set... Garchomp@leftovers swords dance earthquake draco meteor fire blast that is ChainChomp, right? DIALGA ~dragonpulse ~irontail ~AerialAce ~icebeam again, putting physical attacks on a pokemon best fit for a special sweeper. aura sphere>aerial ace and flash cannon>iron tail. for a physical dialga: Dialga@choice band dragon claw earthquake stone edge shadow claw so raters how do u rate it?excellent?good?average?reasonable yet not recommended?or do not take seriously? Zenrot wrote: Hey, i finished some movesets, wondering what you guys thought Pikachu @ Light Ball Grass Knot Thunder Bolt Volt Tackle Iron Tail Suicide Sweeper more like just plain suicide outspeed the opponent or get killed is the theory with pikachus. a good Hidden Power is needed here, and replace it with one of its electrical attacks. iron tail is meh, but I cannot think of another move for that yellow thing. Houndoom @ Brightpowder Flamethrower Dark Pulse Nasty Plot Shadow Ball Special Sweeper shadow ball seems wasted with dark pulse there, so go with a good hidden power again (fighting) or will-o-wisp. overheat is an honorable mention, especially if it has flash fire. @leftovers. Electivire @ ? Cross Chop Thunder Punch Ice Punch EQ Physical Sweeper electivire, meet expert belt; expert belt, meet electivire. consider thunderbolt over thunder punch to hammer skarmory. Charizard @ ? Flamethrower Heat Wave Air Slash Shadow Claw Special Sweeper then why have shadow claw? go with dragon pulse instead, and slap on choice specs... or maybe choice scarf to get lucky with air slash (but leave that master plan to togekiss) Kingdra @ Damp Rock Ice Beam Rain Dance Hydro Pump Dragon Pulse Special Sweeper surf>hydro pump. actually, some (which i like) would go with waterfall and draco meteor. draco meteor is good STAB to take something out quickly, and waterfall's damage wouldn't be weakened by the spAtk drop. Dragonite @ ? Dragon Rush Dragon Dance Fire Blast Wing Attack/Roost Mixed Sweeper my god... no outrage? outrage>dragon rush, and the other two moves can may as well be twister and safeguard on a serious note, earthquake and perhaps fire punch/roost can be in the last two moves, but outrage is the way to go. @persim berry to relieve draggy of its confusion after 1 outrage and outrage a few more Also, can you reccomend some sets for these pokes --> Espeon, Ambipom, Carnivine, Mismagius, Gliscor, Slaking, Exploud, Crawdaunt, Weavile, Dusknoir. there's a thread in the sinnoh region to ask this kind of stuff. we rate movesets here, not give them. at first glance, don't consider using carnivine, slaking (maybe), exploud and crawdaunt. Sorry for such a long post guys! dont feel like you need to do them all, Im just curious about these for team use, I dont want to give you a crazy workload. Pokemaniac wrote: Hi everyone! It's rating time again. I've been breeding and getting some Pokemon I like and want to see how they are so far..... @Payapa Berry Adamant\|Anticipation ~Poison Jab ~Cross Chop ~Bulk Up ~Earth Quake bulk up is wasted, as the defense boosts won't do much. go with swords dance instead and you're set. sucker punch is an honorable mention w/ swords dance and focus sash for a 1HKO to those not expecting it and not resistant to sucker punch. @Liechi Berry Impish\|Stead Fast ~Leaf Blade ~Psycho Cut ~Close Combat ~Swords Dance liechi berry? salac is the berry of choice, but lefties is the general item of choice. @scope lens is also viable, as you have a couple of high-critical-hit moves. @Choice Scarf Lax\|Mold Breaker ~Head Smash ~Zen Headbutt ~Rock Polish ~Earth Quake rock polish and choice scarf; congrats, you've pulled off a Ghett0 focus sash is needed to survive the rock polish, and go with stone edge/rock slide>head smash and crunch (if you can get it) can go in place of zen headbutt. rock slide is recommended over stone edge since you don't want the rock polish to go to waste when stone edge misses. This is it....is it good? yep, pretty good and you're set
Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:09 pm

jrl_07 Bug Catcher Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:17 am Posts: 6	My Teams Hey made a couple teams, could use some advice finishing them up..... Team One I. Houndoom Modest \| Flash Fire 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp a)Nasty Plot b)Flamethrower c)Dark Pulse d)???? II. Starmie Modest \| Natural Cure 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp a)Surf b)Psychic c)Ice Beam d)Recover/Thunderbolt III. Weezing Bold \| Levitate 252 Hp, 129, 129 Sp Def a)Pain Split b)Sludge Bomb c) Will-O-Wisp d)Shadow Ball IV. Rhyperior Adamant \| Solid Rock 252 Atk, 129 Def, 129 Hp a)Swords Dance b)Earthquake c)Rock Slide d)Megahorn V. Machamp Adamant \| No Guard 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp a)Bulk Up b)Dynamic Punch c)Thunder Punch d)Ice Punch VI. Skarmory Impish \| Sturdy 252 Hp, 129 Def, 129 Sp Def a)Toxic b)Aerial Ace c)Whirlwind/Roar d)Spikes/Rest Team Two Slaking Adamant \| Truant 252 Atk, 129 Spd, 129 HP a) Curse b) Giga Impact c) Shadow Claw d) Slack Off/Rest Tyranitar Adamant \| Sand Stream 252 Atk, 129 Spd, 129 Hp a) Dragon Dance b) Crunch c) Rock Slide d) Earthquake Kingdra Modest \| Sniper 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp a) Signal Beam/Rain Dance w/ Swift Swim??? b) Surf c) Dracometor d) Ice Beam Magmortar Modest \| Flame Body 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp a) Flamethrower b) Psychic c) Thunderbolt d) Focus Blast (maybe holding Wide Lens?) Still trying to finsh off the team thinking about running two of the following depending on my teams weaknesses... Umbreon 252 Hp, 129 Def, 129 Sp. Def a) Baton Pass b) Subsitute c) ????? d) Wish Bronzong 252 Hp, 129 Def, 129 Sp. Def a) Calm Mind b) Flash Cannon/Toxic* c) Psychic d) Rest Metagross 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp a) MetorMash b) Zen Headbutt c) Earthquake d) Agility _________________ "How do you stop an exploding man?" BILLjr FC: 4897 2783 4369
Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:02 pm

Harris Pokemon Trainer Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:27 pm Posts: 45	Metagross lvl 100 Leftovers Adamant nature 303 HP 335 Attack 294 Defense 211 Sp. Attack 217 Sp. Defense 184 Speed Clear Body Ability ~~~Earth Quake, Meteor Mash, Psychic, Explosion, Gyarados lvl 100 Leftovers Impish nature 348 HP 306 Attack 220 Defense 144 Sp. Attack 224 Sp. Defense 207 Speed Intimidate Ability ~~~Earth Quake, Flame Thrower, Thunder Bolt, Surf Torkoal lvl 100 Leftovers Calm nature 296 HP 216 Attack 307 Defense 207 Sp. Attack 183 Sp. Defense 89 Speed White Smoke Ability ~~~Heat Wave, Curse, protect, Body Slam Salamence lvl 100 Leftovers Lax nature 337 HP 323 Attack 211 Defense 250 Sp. Attack 178 Sp. Defense 220 Speed Intimidate Ability ~~~Dragon Claw, Protect, Flame Thrower, Fly Tyranitar lvl 100 Leftovers Relaxed nature 369 HP 325 Attack 281 Defense 209 Sp. Attack 240 Sp. Defense 150 Speed Sand Stream Ability ~~~Earth Quake, Rockslide, Crunch, Ice Beam Ludicolo (A God Like Defensive lord) lvl 100 Leftovers naive nature 273 HP 178 Attack 173 Defense 209 Sp. Attack 207 Sp. Defense 196 Speed Rain Dish Ability ~~~Toxic, Leech Seed, Giga Drain, Rain Dance For Backup, I've got Blaziken, Lucario, Gengar and a Snorlax (although I hate them -_- ) 247 wins, 0 loses. Been using this team since Emerald Days and been in a few tournies. _________________ Do you Like RPGs? Click here
Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:30 pm

jupiter Pokemon Trainer Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:14 am Posts: 45 Location: philippines	umm...thank u 4 ever bug catcher!!!! but i have some opinions on your recommendations on my Pokemon moves aerodactyl's fly is only for in-game but when i battle on wi-fi i will have it aerial ace and putting rock slide on aerodactyl instead of thunder fang?then he will be no match for water type pokemon.he cant cover its weakness on water types but im okay w/ fire fang bec. it is now a physical attack in pokemon PD since its a fire type move in sceptile the iron tail removed and replace w/swords dance..but iron tail is my FAVORITE move but its okay bec.rockslide is there to cover its weakness hahahaha to empoleon replacing drill peck w/ice beam will not cover its weakness on fighting types...to lucario (my favorite pokemon)replacing waterpulse w/flash cannon/dragon pulse will not cover its weakness on fire types even i replace it w/earthquake he will be useless if he battled a CHARIZARD. in garchomp flamethrower is more powerful than fire fang but its okay bec his atk is higher than the sp.atk and why do i have to replace dragon pulse w/dragon claw?dragon pulse is mor powerful than dragon claw dragon claw's power is 80 in dragon pulse 90...outrage will cause confusion i really hate it when my pokemon is confused and draco meteor and fire blast?draco meteor has low pp exept i can buy and ether on pokemon diamond or plant leppa berry in fireblast this move has low pp and ACCURACY this will make me tense and make me pray for the fireblast to hit successfully in dialga(my 2nd favorite pokemon)his dragon pulse is more powerful than dragonclaw aerial ace covers fighing type weakness and icebeam to covers ground type weakness im satisfied indeed in the aura sphere...but tell me why i should change my pokemon moves w/the moves that will not cover its weakness and also tell me if my decision is wrong or right to stick w/some of my pokemon moves that will cover their weakness needs to be change w/the moves u'd reccommend to me... but excellent work!!!u only forgot to reccommend me the EV's i needed to raise for them andthe items you reccomend are excellent too and i also dont care a little bit to the items to be held for pokemon i dont give it much importance...but anyways thank u!!!! and some body reply to my questions above... BUT can some body give me a build for a special sweeper dialga the one 4 ever bug catcher wrote is for physical dialga dialga's sp.atk is much higher than atk thank u !!! Last edited by jupiter on Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:48 am, edited 1 time in total.
Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:13 am

Bluestrike Dragon Tamer Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:32 pm Posts: 204 Location: Avatar by Me!!!	I doubt this was intentional, but I haven't had my post replied to yet, at the top of page 42. Please hurry, I need a answer quite quickly please. _________________ No signature here....
Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:51 am

Edgat Pokemon Trainer Joined: Tue May 08, 2007 8:26 pm Posts: 27 Location: North Carolina	Just an idea TOXIC TANK Bronzong - Relaxed/Levitate @Chesto/Leftovers 252 Hp, 129 Def, 129 S Def Toxic Block/Hypnosis Gyro Ball Rest PHY SWEEP NidoKing - Adamant @Black Slude 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp Earthquake Megahorn Stone Edge Brick Break SPC SWEEP Starmie - Timid @Choice Specs 252 S Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp Surf Psychic Ice Beam Thunderbolt MXD SWEEP Blaziken - Lonely @Choice Scarf 252 Hp, 129 Atk, 129 S Atk Flamethrower Brick Break Earthquake Rock Slide SPIKE SPIN Claydol - Sassy @Leftovers/? 252Hp, 129 Def, 129 Atk Earthquake Rapid Spin Stealth Rock Explosion ANNOYER Jumpluff - Jolly @Leftovers/Big Root(work w/ leech seed?) 252 Spd, 129 Def, 129 S Def Sleep Powder Leech Seed Substitue Aromatherapy/U-Turn _________________ <center><img src="images/trainercards/edgat.png"></center>
Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:39 am

Mew_3 Bug Catcher Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:08 pm Posts: 1	i need another pokemon who should i choose i already have metagross ---------------- return meteor mash psychic agility salamence ---------------- dragon claw flamethrower hidden power ghost crunch
Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:13 pm

Roar Of Time Pokemon Ranger Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:25 am Posts: 691	bluestrike wrote: This is a slightly different request. Here are 12 of my pokes, and I would like your help in designing a couple of teams with them. The reason being, I have these twelve pokemon, but I dont know how to use them effectively. Please help. I can't remember EVs, sorry, but most are trained correctly. (metagross 252 in Atk and Spd, for example) If you want to see them all on one page, the link is here. Timid @Life Orb Speed Boost 252 sp atk 252 spd 6hp -Hypnosis. Psychic/Shadow Ball -Bug Buzz -Psychic/Air Slash -Baton Pass. Protect/Detect Modest @Choice Scarf 252 SP ATK 252 SPD 6HP -Psychic/Sludge Bomb/T-bolt Psychic -Shadow Ball -Hypnosis/Sludge Bomb Sludge Bomb/Energy Ball -Focus Blast T-Bolt Timid @Lefties 252 SPATK 252 SPD 6HP -Nasty Plot -Tri Attack -Bolt -Beam Jolly @Leftovers 252 ATK 252 SPD 6HP/252 ATK 252HP 6 SPD -EQ -Meteor Mash -Stone Edge/Rock Slide -Agility Adamant @Focus Sash 252 ATK 252 SPD 6HP -EQ -Dragon Claw -Stone Edge/Rock Slide -Dragon Dance Timid @Specs/Leftovers@Life Orb The standard bolt-beamer is better -Surf -Psychic/Rapid Spin -T-bolt -Ice Beam/Calm Mind No CMS I'll do the others later...Is that alright? Thanks much, Bluestrike _________________ Clickage <Derek> is anyone here ?? <AngrySparrow> No <Derek> im gonna leave because no one is here *** Derek has quit (Exit: Psypoke Forever!) Last edited by Roar Of Time on Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:48 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:22 am

4ever_bug_catcher Ace Trainer Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:14 pm Posts: 306 Location: lawl.	jupiter wrote: but i have some opinions on your recommendations on my Pokemon moves aerodactyl's fly is only for in-game but when i battle on wi-fi i will have it aerial ace and putting rock slide on aerodactyl instead of thunder fang?then he will be no match for water type pokemon.he cant cover its weakness on water types but im okay w/ fire fang bec. it is now a physical attack in pokemon PD since its a fire type move with thunder fang, you're not going to KO many water types still. i hope you have enough experience to see that. thunder fang can't even 1KHO a gyarados after intimidate. rock slide will still hit gyarados hard anyway, so thunder fang is pretty much useless. fire fang is to dent aerodactyl's counters, notably bronzong and maybe skarmory (since fire fang won't do much to it anyway) in sceptile the iron tail removed and replace w/swords dance..but iron tail is my FAVORITE move but its okay bec.rockslide is there to cover its weakness hahahaha iron tail has horrible accuracy, and its only SE against what? to empoleon replacing drill peck w/ice beam will not cover its weakness on fighting types... drill peck is physical, and you're not going to see much fighting types, except heracross, infernape, and lucario. ice beam to switch in on dragons and kill them off. to lucario (my favorite pokemon)replacing waterpulse w/flash cannon/dragon pulse will not cover its weakness on fire types even i replace it w/earthquake he will be useless if he battled a CHARIZARD. fire types? you're worried about fire types!!!! not kewl. you already have aura sphere on lucario (who wouldn't want STAB fighting special attack?) and has greater base power than a SE water pulse. yes, charizard is a special situation where water pulse is better, but having one move just to counter one pokemon (and it's a charizard) it's not worth it in garchomp flamethrower is more powerful than fire fang but its okay bec his atk is higher than the sp.atk if you want a special fire attack, go with fire blast to make up for it's horrid spAtk. and why do i have to replace dragon pulse w/dragon claw?dragon pulse is mor powerful than dragon claw dragon claw's power is 80 in dragon pulse 90... dragon claw is physical. do you understand that? outrage will cause confusion i really hate it i'll exchange 2 of your opponent's pokemon dead for a mere confused status that can be healed by switching out tyvm. and draco meteor and fire blast?draco meteor has low pp if you don't understand the concept of ChainChomp, don't use it. exept i can buy and ether on pokemon diamond or plant leppa berry in what? fireblast this move has low pp and ACCURACY this will make me tense and make me pray for the fireblast to hit successfully fire blast is an option to hit skarmory and physical-oriented bronzong. that's it. ok? in dialga(my 2nd favorite pokemon)his dragon pulse is more powerful than dragonclaw aerial ace covers fighing type weakness and icebeam to covers ground type weakness im satisfied indeed in the aura sphere... you were putting physical attacks on dialga, so i thought that's what you wanted. the norm is special-Dialga so i thought you wanted a change of pace... but tell me why i should change my pokemon moves w/the moves that will not cover its weakness and also tell me if my decision is wrong or right to stick w/some of my pokemon moves that will cover their weakness needs to be change w/the moves u'd reccommend to me... moves that will cover weaknesses? do you understand that fire blast can come from non-fire types, brick break/cross chop will come from non-fighting types, and earthquake will come from every pokemon imaginable? what will you do then? also, the moves you put just to counter their weaknesses will still have lower base power than the moves i listed. one example is aura sphere vs. water pulse. water pulse will hit for 120 base power against infernape, but aura sphere will hit it at 135 base power. got it? u only forgot to reccommend me EV's i needed to raise for them and the items you reccomend are excellent too and i also dont care a little bit to the items to be held for pokemon i dont give it much importance...but anyways thank u!!!! and some body reply to my questions above... items can decide a your fate, my friend... 252atk/252spd/6hp on aerodactyl, sceptile, and garchomp. 252hp/129spAtk/129spDef or 252spAtk/129hp/129spDef on empoleon 252spAtk/252spd/6hp on lucario BUT can some body give me a build for a special sweeper dialga the one 4 ever bug catcher wrote is for physical dialga dialga's sp.atk is much higher than atk thank u !!! Dialga@choice specs pressure modest 252hp/252spAtk/6spd draco meteor/dragon pulse flamethower aura sphere insert lame move here as you wish. with proper prediction, draco meteor will ruin everything, however, you can run dragon pulse if you want a more stable dialga. flamethrower ruins skarmory and bronzong and other steels, while aura sphere is a good reliable, 100% accurate move. for the last move, anything is up for grabs... the move that you didn't pick for the 1st move should go there. PS. write in paragraphs in the future... you've just increased my already sky-high eye prescription... now updated with a rate. jrl_07 wrote: Hey made a couple teams, could use some advice finishing them up..... Team One I. Houndoom Modest \| Flash Fire 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp a)Nasty Plot b)Flamethrower c)Dark Pulse d)???? Will o wisp can go in the last spot, perhaps overheat to go out with a bang. II. Starmie Modest \| Natural Cure 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp a)Surf b)Psychic c)Ice Beam d)Recover/Thunderbolt rapid spin works wonders here. put that over psychic. III. Weezing Bold \| Levitate 252 Hp, 129, 129 Sp Def a)Pain Split b)Sludge Bomb c) Will-O-Wisp d)Shadow Ball i know sludge bomb seems tempting, but its there for absolutely no reason. put flamethrower over it to hit steel (skarmory and bronzong). IV. Rhyperior Adamant \| Solid Rock 252 Atk, 129 Def, 129 Hp a)Swords Dance b)Earthquake c)Rock Slide d)Megahorn wow, SD rhyperior. if set up right, this thing is killer. V. Machamp Adamant \| No Guard 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp a)Bulk Up b)Dynamic Punch c)Thunder Punch d)Ice Punch i don't think machamp has the defenses to bulk up accordingly. go with stone edge over bulk up. pretty neat of you to get thunder and ice punch on it. VI. Skarmory Impish \| Sturdy 252 Hp, 129 Def, 129 Sp Def a)Toxic b)Aerial Ace c)Whirlwind/Roar d)Spikes/Rest roost>toxic, and dump those spDef EVs into defense. Team Two Slaking Adamant \| Truant 252 Atk, 129 Spd, 129 HP a) Curse b) Giga Impact c) Shadow Claw d) Slack Off/Rest how about brick break/hammer arm for steel types? slack off, ironically, doesn't fit on a slaking, as you would be wasting a precious turn to KO another pokemon just to heal HP. curse is even worse on a slaking. earthquake>curse. keep slack off if you want, because giga impact/shadow claw/earthquake is all you need and won't find yourself slacking off at any time. brick break>slack off if you have a spare TM. Tyranitar Adamant \| Sand Stream 252 Atk, 129 Spd, 129 Hp a) Dragon Dance b) Crunch c) Rock Slide d) Earthquake good i guess. stone edge vs. rock slide is a power vs. accuracy issue, so i'll leave that preference to you. Kingdra Modest \| Sniper 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp a) Signal Beam/Rain Dance w/ Swift Swim??? b) Surf c) Dracometor d) Ice Beam sniper, and no focus energy? kingdra is one of those that can fully take advantage of its ability, no matter which one it is: Sniper Kingdra@scope lens/leftovers modest 252spAtk/252spd/6hp or 252spAtk/252hp/6spd focus energy draco meteor/dragon pulse surf ice beam draco meteor/dragon pulse/signal beam Swift-Swim Kingdra@leftovers naive 252atk/240spAtk/16spd rain dance waterfall surf draco meteor/dragon pulse Magmortar Modest \| Flame Body 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp a) Flamethrower b) Psychic c) Thunderbolt d) Focus Blast (maybe holding Wide Lens?) choice specs/scarf is just fine. Still trying to finsh off the team thinking about running two of the following depending on my teams weaknesses... Umbreon 252 Hp, 129 Def, 129 Sp. Def a) Baton Pass b) Subsitute c) ????? d) Wish toxic perhaps? BP/wish/toxic/mean look is the norm here. Bronzong 252 Hp, 129 Def, 129 Sp. Def a) Calm Mind b) Flash Cannon/Toxic* c) Psychic d) Rest why is toxic *ed? with calm mind and good resistances, you can dump more EVs into def from spDef. i like flash cannon over psychic since it takes care of TTar. stealth rock/flash cannon can go in spots 2 and 3. Metagross 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp a) MetorMash b) Zen Headbutt c) Earthquake d) Agility ahh good ol' agilgross. just stay clear of skarmory, and dump most of the speed EVs into HP. i'd say umbreon and bronzong can fill into team two pretty well. you need some defensive pokemon and you already got a handful of sweepers, so metagross isn't needed.
Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:54 am

Case Psychic Trainer Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:38 pm Posts: 55 Location: Pennsylvania	I don't really battle competitively anymore, but I still enjoy making teams, mostly just for fun. Here's one. Zangoose@Focus Sash Ability: Immunity Nature: Jolly EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP Swords Dance Quick Attack Close Combat Night Slash Spiritomb@Leftovers Ability: Pressure Nature: Calm EVs: 129 HP, 129 Def, 252 SpDef Hypnosis Pain Split Will-o-Wisp Dark Pulse Blastoise@Leftovers Ability: Torrent Nature: Bold EVs: 252 HP, 148 Def, 110 SpAtk Hydro Pump Ice Beam Haze Rest Ninetales@Choice Specs Ability: Flash Fire Nature: Timid EVs: 252 SpAtk, 252 Spd, 6 HP Overheat Energy Ball Dark Pulse Hypnosis Bronzong@Leftovers Ability: Levitate Nature: Impish EVs: 252 HP, 129 Def, 129 SpDef Toxic Stealth Rock Confuse Ray Protect Dragonite@Choice Scarf Ability: Inner Focus Nature: Adamant EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP Outrage Earthquake Thunderpunch Waterfall
Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:38 pm

jupiter Pokemon Trainer Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:14 am Posts: 45 Location: philippines	thanks again 4 ever bug catcher!!! exept i can buy and ether on pokemon diamond or plant leppa berry in what? heres my answer:uve recommend me draco meteor it has good power, accuracy exept for pp so i need to plant a lot of leppa berries or pack items that wil recover dracometeor's pp but it will waste a lot of time. in sceptile the iron tail removed and replace w/swords dance..but iron tail is my FAVORITE move but its okay bec.rockslide is there to cover its weakness hahahaha iron tail has horrible accuracy, and its only SE against what? iron tail is SE in ice,rock...rockslide and IT is SE in ice so i think it would be best to place 2 moves that counters its weakness but im wrong in my decision..wahahaahahahahahaa!!!! good thing ive finally consulted a pokemon team raters wahahahaaa!!!!! to empoleon replacing drill peck w/ice beam will not cover its weakness on fighting types... drill peck is physical, and you're not going to see much fighting types, except heracross, infernape, and lucario. ice beam to switch in on dragons and kill them off. my answer:most of the recommended teams here has lucario if i battle them in wi-fi waht should i do now w/my empoleon???but dragons are tougher than fighting type so ur correct..hahahaaa!!!! and why do i have to replace dragon pulse w/dragon claw?dragon pulse is mor powerful than dragon claw dragon claw's power is 80 in dragon pulse 90... dragon claw is physical. do you understand that? YES i finally understand it hihihhi..thanks!!!
Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:07 am

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