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Roar Of Time
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:25 am Posts: 691
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sanjay120 wrote:
Arceus - Adamant - Leftovers
Multitype
Extremespeed
Swords Dance
Shadow Claw
Recover
If you're going to hack something at least give it the right trait. You'll need to find a replacement for this if people mind fighting it. Or you can just use Shoddy.
You do know that Arceus ability is Multitype
http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/493/all
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Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:22 am |
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SkyBlitz
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:07 pm Posts: 140 Location: The Spriting Shack (check siggy)
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A Froslass Bond-KO set:
Froslass/Jolly+Salac
252 Spd, 252 Attack (Intentionally 6 unused EVs)
Endure
Destiny Bond
Ice Shard
Spikes
Spiker, and when death seems close, Endure than Destiny Bond to KO the opponent as well. Shard KOs sashers and is an offensive move, though not imporatnat for the set.
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Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:10 pm |
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sanjay120
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:43 pm Posts: 117
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Roar Of Time wrote: sanjay120 wrote:
Arceus - Adamant - Leftovers
Multitype
Extremespeed
Swords Dance
Shadow Claw
Recover
If you're going to hack something at least give it the right trait. You'll need to find a replacement for this if people mind fighting it. Or you can just use Shoddy.
You do know that Arceus ability is Multitype
http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/493/all
He had Pressure on it.
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Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:33 pm |
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Meeps
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:26 am Posts: 221 Location: Wherever you want me to be.
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Rate my team please. I can give you what I think are the correct IVs for a few pokes. And I can't give you all the EVs for my team as some I trained before knowing about EVs.
Toxicroak @ ? Nature: Naughty
IVs?: HP: About4-7| Attack: 31| Def: under 25| Sp Attack: under25| Sp.Def: Under 19| Speed : 31? shown from recent tests|
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EVs: 255 Attack| 255 Speed
Anticipation
Taunt
Revenge
Poison Jab
?
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Grumpig @? Nature: Careful
IVs: SP. Attack: 28-31 | Speed: 31
EVs: 252 Sp. Attack| 252 Speed| 6 Hp
Own Tempo
Psychic
Confuse Ray
Thunder Wave
Magic Coat/Attract?
Zangoose@? Jolly
IVs: Attack 27-31| Speed: ?
EVs:?
Swords Dance
Aerial Ace
Shadow Claw
Brick Break
Muk @ Iron Ball Nature: Brave
Ivs: Attack 31 | Defense: Above 22 | Sp Defense: Above 24
Evs: Attack 252| Def.: 6 |Sp.Def.:252
Stench
Fling
Shadow Sneak
Shadow Punch
Curse
Froslass@ Focus Sash Nature: Mild
IVs: HP: 30| Def 31| Sp Attack: 30| Speed: 31
EVs: Sp.Attack:252|Speed 252 | Def: 6
Snow Cloak
Ice Beam
Confuse Ray
Subby
Shadow Ball
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Some pokes are not yet trained but all (But Zangoose) are EV Trained
Those pokemon are: Toxicroak( Croagunk level 34) and Zangoose(Level 2)
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Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:04 pm |
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GreenVersionSmeargle
Bug Catcher
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:04 pm Posts: 1
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Ok. I have to admit. I am new at the whole competitive-battling scene. I've managed to put some parts of a team together, but DEFENETLY need some help. Need EV's, item suggestions, and any other helpful tips too. And i'm also looking for another misc. annoyer/staller that would fit.
Rhyperior (Adamant)
-Avalanche/ Substitute (Need help deciding)
-Swords Dance
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
Exeggutor (Modest)
-Sunny Day
-Solarbeam
-Leech Seed
-Psychic/ HP fire
Smeargle (Jolly)
-Spore
-Endure
-Endeavor
-Seismic Toss
Dusknoir (Careful)
-Pain Split
-Focus Punch
-Will-O-Wisp
-Shadow Punch
Vespiquen (Impish)
-Defend Order
-Toxic
-Attack Order
-Heal Order
???
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I'm considering finding an alternative special sweeper (instead of exeggutor), or a way that I could incorporate sunny day with the rest of my team.
OTHER OPTIONS:
I'm trying to find a place for a slowbro in my team, either for sweeping or a wall. Here's the two movesets...Wall is the first, sweeping is the second.
Slowbro (Bold)
-Surf
-Ice Beam/Psychic
-Thunder Wave
-Slack Off
- Surf
- Ice Beam/Psychic
- Calm Mind
- Slack Off
Sorry for the lack of items/EV'S, so please just work with me here. ALL suggestions will be highly appriciated.
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Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:38 pm |
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tessa7338
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:47 pm Posts: 603 Location: Red Sands
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Rightyho. Haven't been here to post a team in ages, so here goes.
Empoleon @ Splash Plate / Shell Bell
Bashful | Torrent
Surf
Metal Claw
Peck
Fury Attack
Luxray @ Magnet / Dread Plate
Jolly | Intimidate
Spark / T-bolt
Crunch
Strength
Swagger
Graveler / Golem @ Quick Claw / Rock Incense
Serious | Rock Head
Rock Blast
EQ
Rollout
Def. Curl
Ponyta / Rapidash @ Flame Plate / Leppa Berry (< still experimenting with NG)
Jolly | Run Away
Flamethrower
Fire Spin
Stomp
Natural Gift
Haunter / Gengar @ Spooky Plate
Relaxed | Levitate
Shadow Ball
Psychic
C-Ray
Sucker Punch / T-bolt (< my last Gengar had it)
Staraptor @ Silk Scarf / Metronome
Docile | Intimidate
Fly
Close Combat
Quick Attack
Defog (< HM)
OPTION: Steelix @ Sitrus / Shell Bell
Docile | Rock Head
Strength
Dragonbreath
Thunder Fang
Sandstorm
Please if you rate:
- I am probably not going to catch/breed new Pokemon for natures and abilities, because this is just a working team to take me past E4 and probably only a little more. It doesn't have to be perfect, just decently strong.
- Steelix is an option that I'm willing to throw in.
- I'm more of the offensive sort, and I like versatility over power. That's why my Empoleon still has Peck.
- I'm really reluctant to use TMs that are only available once, like those given out at Gyms.
- I have just beaten the Snowpoint Gym, so I can't go everywhere to find TMs /items yet. I do have most of the Plates though, and plenty of Heart Scales for the Move Tutor.
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Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:28 am |
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Roar Of Time
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:25 am Posts: 691
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tessa7338 wrote: Rightyho. Haven't been here to post a team in ages, so here goes.
Empoleon @ Splash Plate / Shell Bell Choice Specs
252 spatk, 184 spd other evs into hp
Bashful | Torrent
Surf
Metal Claw Ice beam
Peck Flash Cannon
Fury Attack Grass Knot
Luxray @ Magnet / Dread Plate Choice Band
Jolly | Intimidate
Spark / T-bolt T-Fang
Crunch
Strength Without breeding...
Swagger Since you are not breeding, use Facade
Graveler / Golem @ Quick Claw / Rock Incense Focus Sash
Serious | Rock Head
Rock Blast Stone edge
EQ
Rollout Selfdestruct
Def. Curl Rock Polish
Ponyta / Rapidash @ Flame Plate / Leppa Berry (< still experimenting with Life Orb NG)
252 ATK 252 SPD 6HP
Jolly | Run Away
Flamethrower Megahorn
Fire Spin Flare Blitz
Stomp Poison Jab
Natural Gift Bounce
Haunter / Gengar
252 SPATK 252 SPD 6HP
Relaxed | Levitate
Shadow Ball
Psychic
C-Ray Energy Ball/Focus Blast
Sucker Punch / T-bolt (< my last Gengar had it) / Slugde Bomb, choose T-bolt instead of sucker punch its a choice between SB and T-bolt
Staraptor @ Choice Band
252 ATK 252 SPD 6HP
Docile | Intimidate
Fly Brave Bird
Close Combat
Quick Attack Return/Double-Edge
Defog (< HM) U-Turn
OPTION: Steelix @ Sitrus / Shell Bell Leftovers
129 HP 129 DEF 252 ATK
Docile | Rock Head
Strength Explosion
Dragonbreath EQ
Thunder Fang Rock Polish
Sandstorm Stone edge
Please if you rate:
- I am probably not going to catch/breed new Pokemon for natures and abilities, because this is just a working team to take me past E4 and probably only a little more. It doesn't have to be perfect, just decently strong.
- Steelix is an option that I'm willing to throw in.
- I'm more of the offensive sort, and I like versatility over power. That's why my Empoleon still has Peck.
- I'm really reluctant to use TMs that are only available once, like those given out at Gyms.
- I have just beaten the Snowpoint Gym, so I can't go everywhere to find TMs /items yet. I do have most of the Plates though, and plenty of Heart Scales for the Move Tutor.
Well build your team as you find the items
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Last edited by Roar Of Time on Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:24 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:46 am |
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Pokeman39
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:13 pm Posts: 214 Location: Canada
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Rate my Gangar, please:
Gengar @ ?
Modest | Levitate
252 S. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp
Dark Pulse
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Substitute/Hypnosis/Confuse Ray
Could you also decide on an item, too?
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Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:21 pm |
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Roar Of Time
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:25 am Posts: 691
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Pokeman39 wrote: Rate my Gangar, please:
Gengar @ Choice Scarf
Modest | Levitate
252 S. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp
Dark Pulse Focus Blast/ T-Bolt
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Substitute/Hypnosis/Confuse Ray Energy Ball/Sludge Bomb
Could you also decide on an item, too?
It's all part of the job, mate
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Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:40 pm |
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Sword of Destiny
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:01 pm Posts: 67 Location: Lost in the chaos
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I'm breeding bold koffings right now and this is the ev spread and moveset i plan to do as soon as i hatch a good one:
Weezing @ Black Sludge
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 HP
Bold - Levitate
- Pain Split
- Will-o-Wisp
- Thunderbolt
- Sludge Bomb/Flamethrower
However, i'm not sure about the ev spread. Should i leave it as is or add a few evs in SpDef as well?
And what about haze? Should i put it instead of one of the offensive moves?
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Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:10 am |
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4ever_bug_catcher
Ace Trainer
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:14 pm Posts: 306 Location: lawl.
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SkyBlitz: your Frolass seems fine.
Sword of Destiny: standard weezing. unless you absolutely fear gyarados, you can forgo thunderbolt and give it haze, explosion, or sludge bomb. but flamethrower is absolutely needed to counter heracross that might have came in on a will o wisp. 252hp/252def/6spAtk.
Meeps wrote: Rate my team please. I can give you what I think are the correct IVs for a few pokes. And I can't give you all the EVs for my team as some I trained before knowing about EVs.
Toxicroak @ ? Nature: Naughty
IVs?: HP: About4-7| Attack: 31| Def: under 25| Sp Attack: under25| Sp.Def: Under 19| Speed : 31? shown from recent tests|
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EVs: 255 Attack| 255 Speed
Anticipation
Taunt
Revenge
Poison Jab
?
An anti-opener with taunt, but it's typing and defenses aren't fit for it. you can catch boah offguard with this set (taunt/brick break/stone edge/sucker punch).
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Grumpig @? Nature: Careful
IVs: SP. Attack: 28-31 | Speed: 31
EVs: 252 Sp. Attack| 252 Speed| 6 Hp
Own Tempo
Psychic
Confuse Ray
Thunder Wave
Magic Coat/Attract?
focusing on speed is a bad idea. move those EVs into spDef (you have thunderwave, and grumpig has good SpDef to work with) Parafusion might just work on a defensive pokemon like Grumpig, but i think it needs a secondary attacking move. try this one:
Grumpig@leftovers
own tempo (thick fat is better though)
calm mind
psychic
shadow ball/energy ball
thunderwave
Zangoose@? Jolly
IVs: Attack 27-31| Speed: ?
EVs:?
Swords Dance
Aerial Ace
Shadow Claw
Brick Break
shadow claw and brick break has awesome type coverage, so aerial ace is OK to counter heracross. consider close combat>brick break, as zangoose will die in 1 or 2 hits, and the suicidal move in close combat is worth it. @life orb
Muk @ Iron Ball Nature: Brave
Ivs: Attack 31 | Defense: Above 22 | Sp Defense: Above 24
Evs: Attack 252| Def.: 6 |Sp.Def.:252
Stench
Fling
Shadow Sneak
Shadow Punch
Curse
fling + iron ball doesn't seem right on a muk, although i do like the idea of curse:
Muk@black sludge
stench???? wow... 252hp/252spDef/6atk or 252hp/129atk/129spDef
curse
shadow sneak
brick break
explosion/fire punch
Froslass@ Focus Sash Nature: Mild
IVs: HP: 30| Def 31| Sp Attack: 30| Speed: 31
EVs: Sp.Attack:252|Speed 252 | Def: 6
Snow Cloak
Ice Beam
Confuse Ray
Subby
Shadow Ball
focus sash and subby? no. @leftovers/salac, you can keep subby but consider spikes or destiny bond in the second slot.
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Some pokes are not yet trained but all (But Zangoose) are EV Trained
Those pokemon are: Toxicroak( Croagunk level 34) and Zangoose(Level 2)
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Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:26 am |
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Sword of Destiny
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:01 pm Posts: 67 Location: Lost in the chaos
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Quote: standard weezing. unless you absolutely fear gyarados, you can forgo thunderbolt and give it haze, explosion, or sludge bomb. but flamethrower is absolutely needed to counter heracross that might have came in on a will o wisp. 252hp/252def/6spAtk.
ok... Thanks for the advice  [/quote]
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Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:35 am |
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4ever_bug_catcher
Ace Trainer
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:14 pm Posts: 306 Location: lawl.
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RoT: just don't say 'trade for them'... the team is an in-game team, so keep in mind that some HM moves still needs to be kept, etc.
i think we've missed a customer as well...
GreenVersionSmeargle wrote: Ok. I have to admit. I am new at the whole competitive-battling scene. I've managed to put some parts of a team together, but DEFENETLY need some help. Need EV's, item suggestions, and any other helpful tips too. And i'm also looking for another misc. annoyer/staller that would fit.
Rhyperior (Adamant)
-Avalanche/ Substitute (Need help deciding)
-Swords Dance
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
swords dance rhyperior is really a menace if played correctly. with naturally mammoth HP, substitute can work, but avalanche can absolutely destroy an outraging garchomp and fellow dragons, so go with avalanche instead. subsequently, you can ditch swords dance for megahorn or fire punch (for skarmory and bronzong) and slap on choice band. 252atk/252hp/6def if swords dance is absent or 252hp/129atk/129 spDef or def if swords dance is present.
Exeggutor (Modest)
-Sunny Day
-Solarbeam
-Leech Seed
-Psychic/ HP fire
leech seed is meh (on an exeggutor). with sunny day, exeggutor can outspeed some potential switch-ins on and induce sleep through sleep powder. sleep powder>leech seed and psychic is OK, though there are a multitude of other options (HP Fire, explosion, sludge bomb, trick room, etc.) 252spAtk/252spd/6hp, @leftovers/heat rock
Smeargle (Jolly)
-Spore
-Endure
-Endeavor
-Seismic Toss
i'd say this is best saved for double battles or the end receiver of a baton pass chain. ice shard is the new norm instead of seismic toss nowdays (no immunities, so it KOs all after endeavor) @salac. 252spd is the only necessity here.
Dusknoir (Careful)
-Pain Split
-Focus Punch
-Will-O-Wisp
-Shadow Punch
though focus punch offers type coverage, consider any of the elemental punches over it. ice punch nails dragons, fire punch can deal damage to heracross that may have switched in on a WoW, while thunder punch can hit bulky waters. 252hp/129atk/129spDef
Vespiquen (Impish)
-Defend Order
-Toxic
-Attack Order
-Heal Order
vespiquen is really set back by it's typing; a multitude of weaknesses and stealth rock weakness. i guess this works in theory.
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I'm considering finding an alternative special sweeper (instead of exeggutor), or a way that I could incorporate sunny day with the rest of my team.
this can go in place of vespiquen:
Umbreon@leftovers
sychronize
bold 252hp/129def/129spDef
mean look
baton pass
moonlight
yawn
moonlight heals 2/3 of umby's total HP in sunlight. baton passing mean look is always a good idea, while yawn ensures a somewhat-safe switch on baton pass and give an opportunity to set up and sweep while the opponent is alseep.
OTHER OPTIONS:
I'm trying to find a place for a slowbro in my team, either for sweeping or a wall. Here's the two movesets...Wall is the first, sweeping is the second.
Slowbro (Bold)
-Surf
-Ice Beam/Psychic
-Thunder Wave
-Slack Off
- Surf
- Ice Beam/Psychic
- Calm Mind
- Slack Off
go with the sweeper (2nd) set. 252def/129hp/129spAtk can kill garchomp with ice beam.
Sorry for the lack of items/EV'S, so please just work with me here. ALL suggestions will be highly appriciated.
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Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:17 pm |
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frostydrag0n
Bug Catcher
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:01 am Posts: 2
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GOMENASAI...I wrote wrong ability for arceus...it has multitype...But anyways I'm not using that team in any wi-fi matches...I use it as a training dummy for my no-uber team to train on  Sorry again for any problems...
Uh...help rate my no-uber team..? Thanks a bunch...
Aerodactyl - Hasty - Pressure - Stone plate
-Crunch
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
- Dragon Claw
Salamence - Bashful - Intimidate - Draco Plate
-Dragon Claw
-Crunch
-Flamethrower
-Draco Meteor
Lapras - Careful - Water Absorb - Wise Glasses
-Ice Beam
-Thunder
-Psychic
-Hydro Pump
Lanturn - Hardy - Volt Absorb - Quick Claw
-Hydo Pump
-Surf
-Thunder
-Ice Beam
Froslass - Timid - Sonw Cloak - Nevermelt Ice
-Destiny Bond
-Ice Beam
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
As usual my team will forever be an all out offence until someone knocks into my head telling me why that is very stupid...=P Go figure...
This team is my current team but is subjected to amendments if I still can't beat my legends...(Apparently I only managed to knock down 4 pokemon in my legends...Sighss...)
Thanks again and sorry for previous errors...
_________________ Follow the light... Or Succumb to the dark... Which is it then, shall you choose?
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Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:34 pm |
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4ever_bug_catcher
Ace Trainer
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:14 pm Posts: 306 Location: lawl.
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frostydrag0n wrote: GOMENASAI...I wrote wrong ability for arceus...it has multitype...But anyways I'm not using that team in any wi-fi matches...I use it as a training dummy for my no-uber team to train on  Sorry again for any problems...
Uh...help rate my no-uber team..? Thanks a bunch...
Aerodactyl - Hasty - Pressure - Stone plate
-Crunch
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
- Dragon Claw
ice fang will do more damage to all dragons not named Palkia, Giratina, and Kingdra, so go with that over dragon claw. @choice band/life orb.
Salamence - Bashful - Intimidate - Draco Plate
-Dragon Claw
-Crunch
-Flamethrower
-Draco Meteor
ahh, mixMence... brick break or stone edge should go in the 2nd slot. fire blast should go instead of flamethrower for the event in which draco meteor is used before it. a spAtk+ nature should be used instead of a neutral one: mild or rash are the best choices.
Lapras - Careful - Water Absorb - Wise Glasses
-Ice Beam
-Thunder
-Psychic
-Hydro Pump
a spAtk- nature and yet you still pack special moves on it? either change the nature or change the moveset. if you want this team to beat up an UBER team, you should have ice shard here to pick on lati@s lesser defense and rayquaza. waterfall>hydro pump and ice shard>psychic. thunder is OK to counter kyogre, though i don't know how much it will do with a spAtk- nature.
Lanturn - Hardy - Volt Absorb - Quick Claw
-Hydo Pump
-Surf
-Thunder
-Ice Beam
ditch hydro pump for thunderwave and give it leftovers. thuderbolt>thunder
Froslass - Timid - Sonw Cloak - Nevermelt Ice
-Destiny Bond
-Ice Beam
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
well, something went right here. @leftovers or something...
As usual my team will forever be an all out offence until someone knocks into my head telling me why that is very stupid...=P Go figure...
This team is my current team but is subjected to amendments if I still can't beat my legends...(Apparently I only managed to knock down 4 pokemon in my legends...Sighss...)
using pokemon that aren't even overused (lapras, lanturn, maybe froslass) shouldn't be able to defeat a team of UBERs, no matter how noobish the opponent may be (OK, i can't guarantee that part)
Thanks again and sorry for previous errors...
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Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:57 pm |
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TheWarlock187
Bug Catcher
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:33 pm Posts: 24
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Hey, I have a couple pokemon that I have got up to be rated, I am still working on this though.
Lucario-Adamant
Extreme Speed
Aura Sphere
Close Combat/Metal Sound
Dragon Pulse
Honchkrow-Impish
Nasty Plot
Night Slash
Wing Attack
Night Shade
Gyarados-Hasty
Surf
Ice Fang
Hyper Beam
Dragon Dance
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Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:11 pm |
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4ever_bug_catcher
Ace Trainer
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:14 pm Posts: 306 Location: lawl.
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TheWarlock187 wrote: Hey, I have a couple pokemon that I have got up to be rated, I am still working on this though.
Lucario-Adamant
Extreme Speed
Aura Sphere
Close Combat/Metal Sound
Dragon Pulse
mixLuke... adamant is your nature here so do focus on physical attacks over special... go with choice band/life orb luke:
-extremespeed
-close combat
-shadow claw/earthquake
-stone edge/earthquake
Honchkrow-Impish
Nasty Plot
Night Slash
Wing Attack
Night Shade
ehh... adamant is much better. nasty plot doesn't help any of its attacks. go with a physical set (night slash/drill peck/thunderwave/return) or an inferior special set (nasty plot/dark pulse/psychic/thunderwave or Hidden Power Fighting). @leftovers
Gyarados-Hasty
Surf
Ice Fang
Hyper Beam
Dragon Dance
jolly/adamant again. waterfall, earthquake, and stone edge/ice fang/taunt is usually paired with DDance. @leftovers.
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Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:25 pm |
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Xnux
Bug Catcher
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:21 pm Posts: 3
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After having my entire team defeated by a single Garchomp, I realized I needed professional help. O_o
Luxray with Shell Bell
Intimidate
Serious Nature
-Thunderbolt/Spark/Discharge (not sure which to keep)
-?
-?
-Crunch
Dialga with Adamant Orb
Pressure
Brave Nature
-Flash Cannon
-Ice Beam
-Dragon Pulse
-Roar of Time
Alakazam with Mind Plate
Synchronize
Hardy Nature
-Psychic
-Drain Punch (what was i smoking)
-Shadow Ball
-Shock Wave
Infernape with Quick Claw
Blaze
Quiet Nature
-Flamethrower
-Close Combat
-Shadow Claw
-Brick Break
Gastrodon with Splash Plate
Storm Drain
Hardy Nature
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Earthquake
-Sludge Bomb
Honchkrow with Sky Plate
Insomnia
Naughty Nature
-Psychic
-Fly
-Dark Pulse
-Wing Attack/Aerial Ace
Please passeth thine wisdom unto me 
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:42 pm |
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AABM
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:12 am Posts: 510 Location: Where you MOST expect it.
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Okay, I'm back for a team-rating, this time, I've set myself into the BL/UU lands. And prove that even if they are from lower tiers, BL/UU pokemon can still beat thorough OU <s>coughcheapcough</s> teams.
P.S. Please, do not scold me with standard movesets, I appresiate your creativity and what you think about these sets. I accept corrections coming from standard examples, but that's all.
Luxray @ Choice Band
Intimidate|Jolly/Adamant
. Quick Attack
. Spark
. Fire Fang
. Ice Fang
Vileplume @ Black Sludge
Chlorophyll|Modest/Quiet
. Sleep Powder
. Aromatherapy
. Grass Knot
. Sludge Bomb
Blaziken @ Expert Belt
Blaze|Jolly
. Overheat
. Night Slash
. Sky Uppercut
. Quick Attack
Cloyster @ Lefties
Shell Armour/Skill Link|Brave/Relaxed/Sassy
. Ice Shard/Icicle Spear
. Spikes
. Toxic Spikes
. Rapid Spin
Umbreon @ Lum Berry
Synchronise|Impish/Brave
. Tickle
. Yawn
. Confuse Ray/Secret Power
. Pursuit
Flygon @ Shell Bell
Levitate|Jolly/Adamant
. Screech
. Substitute
. Earthquake
. Dragon Claw
Notes: Luxray is mostly an Intimidate Leader with physical Boltbeam and avalability to CB Quick Attack, which is nice coming from 120 Base Attack.
Vileplume is my sleep support girl, cleric, Toxic Spikes and Sunny Day absorber and mostly Anti-Tar-Hippo-Bulky Waters thanks to Grass Knot.
Blaziken is my Anti-Skarmblisselia man, Expert Belt and having big type coverage means a little plus for him, I cannot afford EQ, tho.
Cloyster is obviously the utility girl with Spinning and Spiking capabilities, depending on her ability, her Ice-type move veries, Ice Shard (aka. Dragon's Guillotine) for a Shell Armour Cloy, Icicle Spear (aka. Subs' Guillotine) is for Skill Link Cloy.
Umbreon is the scariest one in my team, makes the opponent think it twice before settling thanks to Yawn, surpasses Subs (and therefore BP Chains) thanks to Tickle and catches opponents on the run with Pursuit, this is lovely with Spikes Support.
The set you just saw for Flygon is the unique Screechgon set, granted there is Spikes Support, opponents will have these options after a Screech: Switch to make next pokemon suffer from the Spikes or let the helpless creature there to eat a phys. STAB move with two stages less on Def.
And that was my future competitive team, I hope you do your best to perfect it but without scolding me again with standard sets as the only way of succeding, i.e. DON'T GO SO STANDARD ON ME.
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4ever_bug_catcher
Ace Trainer
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:14 pm Posts: 306 Location: lawl.
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AABM wrote: Okay, I'm back for a team-rating, this time, I've set myself into the BL/UU lands. And prove that even if they are from lower tiers, BL/UU pokemon can still beat thorough OU <s>coughcheapcough</s> teams.
P.S. Please, do not scold me with standard movesets, I appreciate your creativity and what you think about these sets. I accept corrections coming from standard examples, but that's all.
Luxray @ Choice Band
Intimidate|Jolly/Adamant
. Quick Attack
. Spark
. Fire Fang
. Ice Fang
*and behold luxray's CB set... adamant for more power, as without scarf, you won't outspeed much anyway.
Vileplume @ Black Sludge
Chlorophyll|Modest/Quiet
. Sleep Powder
. Aromatherapy
. Grass Knot
. Sludge Bomb
*neither overly offensive or defensive, and I like it. consider modest and sunny day; combined with chlorophyll, vileplume will become of the fastest sleep-inducers in the game after the speed boost after sunny day. considering it is hard to find a moveslot for it, you may leave it out. if you want to try sunny day, replace it with sludge bomb and give it (maybe) solarbeam.
Blaziken @ Expert Belt
Blaze|Jolly
. Overheat
. Night Slash
. Sky Uppercut
. Quick Attack
*jolly, with expert belt and quick attack? either change up the nature/item, or quick attack. expert belt doesn't help with quick attack in anyway. try adamant, or naughty (to naturally boost overheat). this setup is OK, but quick attack seems thrown in.
Cloyster @ Lefties
Shell Armour/Skill Link|Brave/Relaxed/Sassy
. Ice Shard/Icicle Spear
. Spikes
. Toxic Spikes
. Rapid Spin
*in the battle between ice shard and icicle spear, have fun settling that. for me, ice shard bypasses cloyster's speed and ends a dragon's threat, barring yache berry. everything else looks good here.[
Umbreon @ Lum Berry
Synchronise|Impish/Brave
. Tickle
. Yawn
. Confuse Ray/Secret Power
. Pursuit
*pursuit is a nominal amount of damage, especially w/o curse in this moveset. this can run into some problems with those who use substitute and those that resist pursuit. you're also assuming that a counter will not 2HKO you, and umbreon will fail to the likes of megahorn from heracross/rhyperior or close combat from heracross/infernape, especially w/o a recovery move (wish or moonlight; actually, moonlight will go well with sunny day support from vileplume).
Flygon @ Shell Bell
Levitate|Jolly/Adamant
. Screech
. Substitute
. Earthquake
. Dragon Claw
*you'll be sad to see that this won't hurt skarmory, even after a screech.
however, screechcan work well in conjunction with spikes support.
Notes: Luxray is mostly an Intimidate Leader with physical Boltbeam and avalability to CB Quick Attack, which is nice coming from 120 Base Attack.
Vileplume is my sleep support girl, cleric, Toxic Spikes and Sunny Day absorber and mostly Anti-Tar-Hippo-Bulky Waters thanks to Grass Knot.
Blaziken is my Anti-Skarmblisselia man, Expert Belt and having big type coverage means a little plus for him, I cannot afford EQ, tho.
Cloyster is obviously the utility girl with Spinning and Spiking capabilities, depending on her ability, her Ice-type move veries, Ice Shard (aka. Dragon's Guillotine) for a Shell Armour Cloy, Icicle Spear (aka. Subs' Guillotine) is for Skill Link Cloy.
Umbreon is the scariest one in my team, makes the opponent think it twice before settling thanks to Yawn, surpasses Subs (and therefore BP Chains) thanks to Tickle and catches opponents on the run with Pursuit, this is lovely with Spikes Support.
The set you just saw for Flygon is the unique Screechgon set, granted there is Spikes Support, opponents will have these options after a Screech: Switch to make next pokemon suffer from the Spikes or let the helpless creature there to eat a phys. STAB move with two stages less on Def.
And that was my future competitive team, I hope you do your best to perfect it but without scolding me again with standard sets as the only way of succeding, i.e. DON'T GO SO STANDARD ON ME.
sadly, there are some flaws in your gameplan: an opponent carrying a rapid spinner. consider a ghost type in your party (a nice BL one would be mismaguis or spiritomb, mismaguis perferably because you lack a special sweeper) as long you have a ghost type, you can block spinners and continue to rack up spikes damage while you're at it. also, w/o spikes support, that umbreon is trash (no offense).
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:29 pm |
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Roar Of Time
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:25 am Posts: 691
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Xnux wrote: After having my entire team defeated by a single Garchomp, I realized I needed professional help. O_o
Lulz
Luxray with Shell Bell Choice Scarf
Intimidate
Serious Nature Adamant
252 ATK 252 SPD 6 HP
-Thunderbolt/Spark/Discharge (not sure which to keep) None. T-Fang
-? Ice Fang
-? Fire Fang
-Crunch
Dialga with Adamant Orb Life Orb/Expert Belt
Pressure
Brave Nature Enough for a Mixed Sweeper
129 SP ATK 129 ATK 252 SPD
-Flash Cannon EQ
-Ice Beam T-bolt/Thunder
-Dragon Pulse
-Roar of Time Nope
Alakazam with Choice Specs
Synchronize
Hardy Nature Modest/Timid
252 SP ATK 252 SPD 6 HP
-Psychic
-Drain Punch (what was i smoking) Lulz...Grass Knot
-Shadow Ball /Focus Blast
-Shock Wave Trick
Infernape with Quick Claw Life orb/Expert Belt
Blaze
Quiet Nature Hasty/Naive
-Flamethrower
-Close Combat
-Shadow Claw Grass Knot
-Brick Break Nooooooooooooope. Nasty Plot
Gastrodon with Splash Plate Lefties
Storm Drain
Hardy Nature Relaxed
200 HP 252 DEF Remaining EVs into SpA
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Earthquake
-Sludge Bomb Recover
Honchkrow with Choice Band
Insomnia
Naughty Nature Adamant/Jolly
252 ATK 252 SPD 6 HP
-Psychic Night Slash
-Fly Steel Wing
-Dark Pulse Sucker Punch
-Wing Attack/Aerial Ace Drill Peck
Please passeth thine wisdom unto me 
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Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:52 pm |
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Xnux
Bug Catcher
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:21 pm Posts: 3
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I am attempting to preconstruct a new team for competitive battling, as my old team sux0rd. The theme is sweeping, and lots of it. I am immune to Toxic
So, when rating, feel free to offer any alternative pokemon if you think one is unsuitable.
Electivire @ Life Bell
Adamant | Motor Drive
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~ThunderPunch
~Earthquake
~Ice Punch
~Cross Chop
Physical Sweeper.
Togekiss @ Leftovers
Timid | Serene Grace
252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~Nasty Plot
~Air Slash
~Aura Sphere
~Flamethrower
Special Sweeper.
Torrent the Tyranitar @ Shell Bell
Adamant | Sand Stream
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~Dragon Dance
~Earthquake
~Rock Slide
~Crunch
Physical Sweeper.
Mamoswine @ Iron Ball
Adamant | Oblivious
252 Attack, 129 Special Defense, 129 HP
~Curse
~Earthquake
~Avalanche
~Rock Slide
Physical Sweeper.
Milotic @ Focus Sash
Calm | Marvel Scale
252 Special Attack, 129 Defense, 129 Hp
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Dragon Pulse
~Recover
Special Sweeper.
JediKnight the Lucario @ Wise Glasses
Modest | Steadfast
252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~Calm Mind
~Aura Sphere
~Flash Cannon
~Psychic
Special Sweeper.
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Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:47 pm |
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Roar Of Time
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:25 am Posts: 691
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Xnux wrote: I am attempting to preconstruct a new team for competitive battling, as my old team sux0rd. The theme is sweeping, and lots of it. I am immune to Toxic
So, when rating, feel free to offer any alternative pokemon if you think one is unsuitable.
Electivire @ Life Bell Life Orb?
Adamant | Motor Drive
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~ThunderPunch
~Earthquake
~Ice Punch
~Cross Chop
Physical Sweeper.
Togekiss @ Leftovers
Timid | Serene Grace
252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~Nasty Plot
~Air Slash
~Aura Sphere
~Flamethrower
Special Sweeper.
Torrent the Tyranitar @ Shell Bell Life OrbAdamant | Sand Stream
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~Dragon Dance
~Earthquake /Taunt
~Rock Slide Stone edge
~Crunch
Physical Sweeper.
Mamoswine @ Leftovers
Adamant | Oblivious
252 Attack, 129 Special Defense, 129 HP
~Curse
~Earthquake
~Avalanche
~Rock Slide Stone edge
Physical Sweeper.
Milotic @ Leftovers
Calm | Marvel Scale
252 Special Attack, 129 Defense, 129 Hp
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Dragon Pulse
~Recover
Special Sweeper.
JediKnight the Lucario @ Expert Belt/Life Orb
Modest | Steadfast
252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~Calm Mind
~Aura Sphere//Vaccum Wave
~Flash Cannon Dragon Pulse
~Psychic
Special Sweeper.
Could work...but here's one that allows you to hit faster and just as hard as the set you have suggested
{lucario} @Choice Specs
Modest/Timid
252 SP ATK 252 SPD 6 HP
Aura Sphere/Vaccum wave
Dragon Pulse/Hidden Power
Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball
Psychic
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AKART
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:01 am Posts: 204 Location: Riding on Salamence, looking for Bidoof to kill
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Well a good team is always needed  :
Magikarp @ Focus Sash. Swift Swim
Adamant, 252 Att 129 Spd 129 HP
Splash
Tackle
Flail
???
(I seriously want to change this one, but there's nothing else I can think of) Basically your opponent laughs at you, attempts a OHKO, and ends up screaming in terror as Flail jolts their happy moods.
Mr. Mime @ Light Clay. Levitate
Impish, 252 Def 252 Sp. Def 6 Att
Reflect
Light Screen
U-Turn
???
This is some sort of Poke that sets up Light Screen and Reflect and then runs away. I don't think a fourth move would be neccassary, but what do you think? Anyway, I'm U-Turning to...
Umbreon @ Leftovers. Synchronize
Bold, 252 Def 252 Sp. Def 6 Spd
Double Team
Calm Mind
Substitute
Baton Pass
Its a basic Baton Passer. I'm asking you to help me spot anything that might screw up this defensive guy. I don't find it too possible. Anyway, Baton Pass to...
Alakazam @ Lum Berry. Synchronize
Modest, 252 Sp. Att 252 Spd 6 HP
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Energy Ball
Focus Blast
A basic Sp. Sweeper. Double Team protects Alakazam on the Baton Pass and good ol' Substitute prevents Shadow Punch from doing serious damage. Lets hope Focus Blast doesn't miss too much, as if we run out we are totally screwed by Blissey. Anyway, on the rare occasion this guy faints...
Ninjask @ Brightpowder. Speed Boost
Calm, 252 Def 252 Sp. Def 6 HP
Double Team
Swords Dance
Substitute
Baton Pass
See Umbreon for details and requests.
Salamence @ Muscle Band. Intimidate
Adamant, 252 Att 252 Spd 6 HP
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Aerial Ace
Brick Break
Ah... my team's pride and joy. This dragon here basically rips through everything, and totally rids the Physical Sweeper's reputation of `screwed by Skarm`. Uh... Anything I could do to improve? Like Alakazam, this guy doesn't need stat boosters because of Ninjask.
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Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:15 am |
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Roar Of Time
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:25 am Posts: 691
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AKART wrote: Well a good team is always needed  :
Magikarp @ Focus Sash. Swift Swim
Adamant, 252 Att 129 Spd 129 HP
Splash
Tackle
Flail
???
(I seriously want to change this one, but there's nothing else I can think of) Basically your opponent laughs at you, attempts a OHKO, and ends up screaming in terror as Flail jolts their happy moods.
Magikarp... ,....your opponent will outspeed you, thus avoiding Flail and Magikarps...atk is too low...get it to G-does and then teach this moveset...
@Wacan Berry/Lefties/Life Orb
Adamant/Jolly 252 ATK 252 SPD 6 HP
Dragon Dance
Aqua Tail/Waterfall
Ice fang
EQ
Mr. Mime @ Light Clay. Levitate
Impish, 252 Def 252 Sp. Def 6 Att
Reflect
Light Screen
U-Turn
???
This is some sort of Poke that sets up Light Screen and Reflect and then runs away. I don't think a fourth move would be neccassary, but what do you think? Anyway, I'm U-Turning to...
Mr. Mime's Defense are too weak, the def and HP really gets it down
If you want a U-turn pokemon have...
{azelf} @Life Orb
Naive 252 Sp atk 220 speed remaining EVs in atk
Explosion
U-Turn
Flamethrower
Psychic
This will also prevent SKarmBliss form ruining your team
Umbreon @ Leftovers. Synchronize
Bold, 252 Def 252 Sp. Def 6 Spd Nope. 252 129 def 129 sp def
Double Team Good for non-competetive, but for competetive use...Wish
Calm Mind
Substitute
Baton Pass
Its a basic Baton Passer. I'm asking you to help me spot anything that might screw up this defensive guy. I don't find it too possible. Anyway, Baton Pass to...
Alakazam @ Lum Berry. Synchronize Life Orb
Modest, 252 Sp. Att 252 Spd 6 HP
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Energy Ball
Focus Blast
A basic Sp. Sweeper. Double Team protects Alakazam on the Baton Pass and good ol' Substitute prevents Shadow Punch from doing serious damage. Lets hope Focus Blast doesn't miss too much, as if we run out we are totally screwed by Blissey. Anyway, on the rare occasion this guy faints...
Subby will protect Zam for a limited time, and once you baton pass CMs your Zam will be powerful, Life Orb if you want to switch moves
Ninjask @ Brightpowder Lefties for competive
Calm, 252 Def 252 Sp. Def 6 HP Adamant/Jolly
Double Team Aerial Ace/ X-Scissor
Swords Dance
Substitute
Baton Pass
See Umbreon for details and requests.
Salamence @ Muscle Band. Intimidate
Adamant, 252 Att 252 Spd 6 HP
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Aerial Ace Flamethrower/Fire Fang
Brick Break Dragon Claw
Ah... my team's pride and joy. This dragon here basically rips through everything, and totally rids the Physical Sweeper's reputation of `screwed by Skarm`. Uh... Anything I could do to improve? Like Alakazam, this guy doesn't need stat boosters because of Ninjask.
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