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Here is my mighty team, they haven't let me down yet. But it's best you rate them and tell my all that is good and bad.

{lucario} @ Choice Scarf
Naughty/ Steadfast
EV's- 252 AT/ 60 SA/ 196 SP
-Close Combat
-Crunch
-Hidden Power (Ice)
-Psychic

Lucario is basically my lead pokemon, it's speed can outrun any other pokemon non-choiced scarfed pokemon not called Ninjask or Electrode. Hidden power should take care of most dragon types, and psychic is for damaging Toxicroak and Heracross. Works well when the opponent leads their team with Tyranityar.

{gengar} @ Life Orb
Timid/ Levitate
EV's- 4 HP/ 252 SA/ 252 SP
-Hypnosis
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast

This is my teams top special attacker, the ghost and fighting combo is just perfect seeing as no pokemon can resist it, hypnosis works well on pokemon that Gengar, has to 2 or 3 hit KO. It's a life saver against Blissey, as she can't use softboiled to save herself when she's asleep.

{uxie} @ Leftovers
Relaxed/ Levitate
EV's- 252 HP/ 252 DE/ 4 SA
-Grass Knot
-U-turn
-Stealth Rock
-Yawn

My star pokemon, as soon as I get the stealth rocks up, all focus sash loving pokemon are screwed. Afterwards I just have Uxie yawn to force people to either switch into stealth rocks, or stay and sleep. Some pokemon may have lum or chesto berry, but that's okay, because I'll U-turn away to a counter pokemon in my team, or put them to sleep again with Gengar. Grass Knot is for Swampert.

{gyarados} @ Life Orb
Jolly/ Intimidate
EV's- 4 HP/ 252 AT/ 252 SP
-Dragon Dance
-Waterfall
-Earthquake
-Ice Fang

My sweeper! Once the stealth rocks are up, no pokemon will be safe after a few dragon dances. I chose Jolly nature because I'm fed up of people switching to their Jolteon after I dragon dance. I would have Salamance seeing as he has more attack and speed, but because so many people use ice shard, it becomes impossible to sweep with.

{garchomp} @ Choice Scarf
Adament/ Sand Veil
EV's- 4 HP/ 252 AT/ 252 SP
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Fire Fang

My back up, If Gyarados was to fail, this would be my next hard hitter, however I have to lure him in quite early in the battle to scout for ice shard pokemon, then switch out, and bring back when they're out of the way.

{electivire} @ Life Orb
Mild/ Motor Drive
EV's- 76 AT/ 252 SA/ 180 SP
-Thunderbolt
-Flamethrower
-Hidden Power (Ice)
-Earthquake

You know why he's here, he's like a brother to Gyarados. It's good for countering electrodes as they are a threat to Gyarados.


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Fleh, my last team sucked, a fighting type would be dancing over my former 'flexible-as-milk' crap.
Just in case any rater decides to come into action after their 100 year sleep, here is my Closing Walls Team.

To save the internet's supply of ink all they're abilities are Pressure.

Absol @ Lefties
Adamant
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 Def
Night Slash
Swords Dance
Detect
Taunt

I really wanted a good physical ground or grass move but Absol is stubborn, so taunt won by default.
Technique is swords dance, detect, attack, detect, etc.

Aerodactyl @ Life Orb
Adamant
252 Atk / 126 Spd / 126 HP / 6 Def
Stone Edge/Rock Slide
Iron Head
Roost
Protect

Attack then protect, roost when life orb is getting too much.

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Impish
202 Def / 202 Sp Def / 106 Atk
Shadow Punch
Mean Look
Curse
Pain Split

The same technique would have no actual attack moves, so this is mean look, pain split, curse, pain split if necessary or shadow punch.

Spiritomb @ Big Root
Modest
252 Sp Atk / 132 Sp Def / 126 Def
Dream Eater
Hypnosis
Pain Split
Protect

Hypnosis, maybe pain split if they sprung fast, if not dream eater until they wake up, protect then repeat.

Vespiquen @ Lefties
Impish
150 Atk / 150 HP / 145 Def / 145 Sp Def
Attack Order
Heal Order
Toxic
Protect

Toxic, protect, heal or attack order, protect, repeat.

Weavile @ Lefties
Adamant
255 Atk / 255 Spd
Ice Punch
Brick Break
Protect
Spite

Ice punch or brick break, protect, spite, repeat.

This team is not for the impatient as it may take awhile before you see what your actually doing, eventually you will force them to struggle then you can glide through them like... a highly trained glider... through air... Okay the team's better than my metaphor's.

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So many teams, so little rates...

ProfDom: For your Electivire... dang, there really aren't any good Physical electric moves...

Seeing as you have no boosting moves, a booster item like Choice Scarf might work?
Or of course you could ditch something for Charge and put Thunderpunch, but that's probably not as good.

No guarantees in this suggestion. Expert rating called for.

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Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:06 pm
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dracko599 wrote:
I'm bored and am still new to the terms for everything and training stuff (usually just did everything the ignorant way without any special items or thinking bout DV's (I think thats what they're called))
This is for the battle tower or Lvl 50 team matches

{leafeon} Leafeon @ (Dunno)
Adamant nature - its ability
???
-Leaf Blade
-Synthesis
-Sunny Day
-Solorbeam

+

{rhyperior} Rhyperior @ (dunno)
Adamant nature - (the one that lowers Super effective damage)
252 Att, 158 S. Def, 100 HP
-Poisen Jab
-Thunder Punch
-Fire Punch
-Rock Slide

and

{politoed} Politoad @ Shell Bell
Modest nature - Water absorb
252 S. Att, 100 Def, 100 HP, 58 Speed
-Surf
-Substitute
-Ice Beam
-Mud bomb

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{poliwrath} Poliwrath @ Lefties
modest nature - Water absorb
252 S. Att, 100 Def, 100 HP, 58 Att
-Surf
-Substitute
-Rock Slide
-Poison Jab

Those are the two I came up with, If anyone has any ideas or did something similar please tell me how it went or what can be improved...

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*sigh* again here is my team

Espeon
EVs SPA 252, Spd 252, HP 6

Calm mind
baton pass
Psychic
(what the hell is hp fighting) substitue

T-Tar,
EVs ATK 252, Spd 252, HP 6

Dragons dance
Earthquake
stone edge
crunch

Lucario
EVs SPA 252, Spd 252, HP 6

Aura sphere
calm mind
dark pulse
psychic

Raichu

Attrack
Sweet kiss
thunder wave
eather thunder bolt or volt tackle.

Dusknor

mean look
toxic
shadow ball
(insert)

thanks

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Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:21 pm
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MasterChef wrote:
Throwing my team out again, 3 new pokes. some changes.

The Chef
{alakazam}
Modest @ Life Orb. Synchronize
252 s.atk 200speed 58 HP
-Psychic
-Shadow ball
-Focus Blast
-Charge Beam (Revenge KOing +S.atk boost)

Special Sweeper

Anise
{mismagius}
Modest @ Wise Glasses. Levitate
52HP 200DEF 155S.ATK 103SPEED
-Skill Swap
-Pain Spilit
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power (Fighting) 55-56 Base Power

Semi wall / Pain Split abuser


Caramel
{muk}
Brave @ Leftovers. Sticky Hold
255atk 255def
-Curse
-Shadow Sneak
-Gunk shot (debating with posion jab for acc.)
-Brick Break

Cursewall


Santoku
{kabutops}
Hasty @ Expert belt. Battle armor
252atk 252speed 4def
-x-scissor
-Waterfall
-Confuse Ray
-Rock Slide

Denial attacker

Sage (goes in every field)
{hitmonchan}
Adamant @ Muscle band. Iron fist
252ATK 200HP 56DEF
-Ice Punch
-Thunder Punch
-Close Combat
-Agility

Boltbeam, Phsy Sweeper

Yogurt
{miltank}
Adamant @ Scrappy. Focus Band/ Status curing berry
252HP 152ATK 104DEF
-Body Slam
-Milk Drink
-Hammer arm
-Substitute

Mil-Tank



Thu May 01, 2008 7:02 am
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Forget that last team I posted. This is the one I want to focus on now.

{gengar}
Gengar @Life Orb
Timid
252 SpA / 6 HP/ 252 Spe
Hypnosis
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast

Obviously a standard Gengar, my special sweeper. I currently have a Wide Lens on it for Focus Blast, but Life Orb hopefully would give that extra bit of power to OHKO what I need it to. I got it leading because it really can't take any hits.

{crobat}
Crobat @Leftovers
Jolly
252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe
U-Turn
Aerial Ace
Hypnosis
Mean Look

I am going with the Trapper set for this Crobat. Hopefully his speed is able to keep them from switching and keeps them asleep when he U-turns to the pokemon that is best suited for beating the trapped pokemon.

{dugtrio}
Dugtrio @ Life Orb
Adamant
252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Earthquake
Aerial Ace
Rock Slide
Night Slash

Got him to put some ease on Crobat's mean look with his ability. I chose the Life Orb rather than the choice route for the use of different moves. I picked Rock Slide over Stone Edge for the fliching aspect.

{weavile}
Weavile @Choice Band
Jolly
40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spe
Pursuit
Ice Shard
Brick Break
Night Slash

Goin for the physical sweeper with this one. Choice band because with all the switching that could be happening in this team, the downside to the item won't be much of problem.

{weezing}
Weezing @Leftovers
Bold
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Sludge Bomb
Will-o-wisp
Haze
Pain Splint

This is my defense sponge. Will-o-wisp with give some DoT that could be helpful. Haze will help with statuses.

{snorlax}
Snorlax @Leftovers
Careful
244 HP / 28 Def / 236 SpD
Rest
Sleep Talk
Bod Slam
Earthquake

More of my special wall. As good as Blissey is, I just can't bring myself to use it. Its just personal preference. To me it is boring using only the best. I could be sounding like a hypocrite considering the rest of my team, but I just see Blissey on most teams I have looked at and I don't want to use it.


Gengar and Crobat are two personal favorites of mine, so I am really not to keen on replacing either of them, but suggestions on making them work better are welcome. I don't want to use any of the legendaries in my teams. Personal preference. And I have already spoken my thoughts on Blissey. I know that three are poison and poison tends to be weak, but the speed of mine, other than my defensive ones hopefully will make up for some of the weaknesses that are in the team. I hope this gets me a little more cred, I really put some thought into this.

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Let me Show u a real team

Lucario Modest
Choice Specs Steadfast
Dark pulse,Dragon Pulse,Aura Sphere,Vaccum Wave
252 Speed/SpAtk

Donphan Adamant
Choice Band Sturdy
Rapid Spin,Stone Edge,Earthquake,Ice Shard
172HP/252Atk/84Speed

Gengar Timid
Wise Glasses Levitate
Shadow Ball,Destiny Bond,Will-O-Wisp,Substitute
252SpAtk/Speed

Bronzong Relaxed
Ganlon Berry Levitate
Hypnosis,Gyro Ball,Earthquake,Stealth Rock
252Hp/152Atk/8Def/96SpD

Weavile Jolly
Life Orb Pressure
Brick Break,Night Slash,Swords Dance,Ice Shard
252Atk 40Hp 212Speed

Dusknoir Careful
Leftovers Pressure
Thunder Punch,Shadow Sneak,Will-o-Wisp,Pain Split
252Hp/76Def/180SpD

Now thats a real team


Sun May 04, 2008 1:42 pm
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would like to get this team rated:

{mewtwo} Mewtwo @ White Glasses. Pressure
Timid, Speed 252, Special Attack 252, HP 4

Aura Sphere
Me first
ice beam
psychic

off course this is a special attack sweeper

{shuckle} Shuckle @ Leftovers, Sturdy
Relaxed, Defense 252, HP 252, Special Defence 4

Power Trick
Acupressure
Gyro Ball (really works great on a slow pokemon, since the formula for gyro ball is like 25*opponent speed/user speed, and shuckle is the slowest! known pokemon)
stone edge

highest defense off all pokemon, power trick swaps defence stats with attack stats

{rhyperior} Rhyperior @ Muscle Band, Solid Rock
Adamant, Attack 252, Defense 252, Speed 4

Earthquake
Megahorn
Rock Wrecker
Swords Dance

Physical Sweeper

{scizor} Scizor @ Shell Bell, Swarm
Adamant, Attack 252, Speed 252, HP 4

Night Slash
Swords Dance
Brick Break
X-Scissor

another physical sweeper

{houndoom} Houndoom @ Power Herb, Flash Fire
Modest, Special Attack 252, HP 252, Speed 4

Solar beam
Flame Thrower
Dark Pulse
Nasty Plot

Houndoor has weakness to water, ground, rock and fighting, solar beam deals 2x120=240 damage to water type and 4x120=480 to dual type rock/ground, power herb will make solar beam attack instantly and therefore gives a very damaging move to counter his few weaknesses. his only real weakness left is fighting type attacks

{dragonite} Dragonite @ Persim Berry, Inner Focus
Adamant, Attack 252, HP 252, Speed 4

Outrage
Roost
Dragon Dance
Fire Punch


Mon May 05, 2008 11:42 am
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johnwolf wrote:
*sigh* again here is my team

Espeon
EVs SPA 252, Spd 252, HP 6

Calm mind
baton pass
Psychic
(what the hell is hp fighting) substitue

T-Tar,
EVs ATK 252, Spd 252, HP 6

Dragons dance
Earthquake
stone edge
crunch

Lucario
EVs SPA 252, Spd 252, HP 6

Aura sphere
calm mind
dark pulse
psychic

Raichuif you want an electric type i'd go with something else than raichu

Attrack
Sweet kiss
thunder wave
eather thunder bolt or volt tackle.

Dusknor

mean look
toxic
shadow balla phys move would be best because his attack is much better than his sp. att.
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hey all this is my new team. it is still in training and i would like some help to try and improve it please help me! lol

{salamence} - Salamence -@ [Life orb]. [Intimidate] --- Physical sweeper - DDMence
[Adamant], [EV-252 Attack, 8 Defense, 56 Sp.def, 194 Speed], [IV-27 Hp, 31 Attack, 30 Defense, 3 Sp.Attack, 18 Sp.Defense, 7 Speed]
[Dragon Claw]
[Dragon Dance]
[Earthquake]
[Fire Blast]

This is a classic DDmence set i have used fire blast as my last move to counter those annoying skarmory that would overwise wall Salamence. i am not sure about the item i have put the EV's to try and strenghtn up the weak IV's this will have max attack at 405 and at lvl 100 will have 197 in both Defenses. it will also have 260 speed.


{alakazam} - Alakazam @ [Focus Sash]. [Synchronize] ---- Special Sweeper
[Quiet], [EV-252 Sp.Att, 252Speed, 6 Def]

[Calm Mind]
[Pyshic]
[Focus Blast]
[Shadow Ball]

I have always liked alakazam and would like to incorporate it into my team as a special sweeper. focus sash allows one calm mind to be put up i think that the moveset covers types quit well but i may have to rebreed this sometime for a better nature! opinions!

{rhyperior}Rhyperior - @ [Leftovers]. [Solid Rock] --- Tank/Wall/SR user
[Adamant], [EV-252 Att, 252 Def, 6 Sp,Def] i think these are the EV's cant remember though.

[Megahorn]
[Stealth Rock]
[Earthquake]
[Roar]

i like my rhyperior and with the backup of Ninjask it is also a respectable sweeper its main use is to set up stealth rock but if Ninjask can get in a swords dance then sweeping is possible the nature is in favour of sweeping.

{ninjask} - Ninjask @ [Liechi Berry]. [Speed Boost] --- Baton Passer --- starter
[Jolly], [EV-252 Speed, 252 HP 6 Def], [IV- 31 Hp, 30 Speed and i cant remember the rest.

[Baton Pass]
[Swords Dance]
[X-scissors]
[Substitute]

tis is a classic ninjask set, substitute until the liechi berry activates then baton pass to my physical sweeper, either Salamence/garchomp or Rhyperior if a substute hold 1 turn i could get in a swords dance for greater effect and maybe even pass a sub.


{dusknoir} - Dusknoir @ [Leftovers]. [Pressure] --- Mixed Wall
[Careful], [Ev-252 Hp, 194 Def, 64Sp.Def ]

[Pain Split]
[Will-O-Wisp]
[Shadow Sneak]
[Thunder Punch/Fire Punch]

This is my mixed wall the EV's have been distrubuted to give it equal Def and Sp.Def if this is wrong please tell me, Will-O-Wisp is to stop those physical sweepers, shadow sneak give me a priority move and Pain Split is my method for healing. this may be more effective with a lower HP so EV's may have to be changed there too. Thunder/Fire Punch is up for choice. Thunder Punch will get those Gyarados but Fire punch is for those steel types. opinions would be helpful on this.




{vaporeon} - Vaporeon @ [?]. [Water Absorb] need an item might use a shell bell
[Bold], [I cant remember the EV;s but it has 252 in HP]

[Ice Beam]
[Surf]
[Rest]
[Sleep Talk] ? need move

This pokemon is a sleep talker and my main counter for those annoying dragon types. it is also a bulky water type so will be able to take some hits. i am not sure about the item and would like help on this.

any help would help my team greatly :lol:


Tue May 06, 2008 11:12 am
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so... i was thinking of a team and came up with 31 pokemon i would use... but mainly these 6... hehehehe

{scizor} @? Technician
Nature: Careful 252 ATK 129 Spd 129 S.Def

Aerial Ace
X-Scissor
Protect
Swords Dance

Physical Sweeper


{tyranitar} @? Sand Veil
Hasty 252 atk 252 speed 4 S.Def

Crunch
Earthquake
Thunder Fang
?

Physical Sweeper


{toxicroak} @? Anticipation
Adamant 252 Atk 252 Spd 4 HP

Poison Jab
Brick Break
X-Scissor
Swords Dance

Physical Sweeper


{cloyster} @Leftovers Shell Armor
Lax 252 Def 129 S.Def 129 S.Atk

Ice Beam
Protect
Iron Defense
Toxic Spikes


Physical Sponge/Pseudo Annoyer


{charizard} @? Blaze
Modest 252 S.Atk 252 Spd

Flamethrower
Dragon Pulse
Swagger
Substitute

Special Sweeper


{gengar} @Leftovers Levitate
Timid 252 Spd 129 S.Def 129. S. Atk

Hypnosis
Dream Eater
Curse
Shadow Ball

Annoyer/Pseudo Special Sweeper


This Team is the first one I created based on my favorites... i Think it turned out pretty well, seeing i have a 9 win record, 2 loss against my friends... The Items are the only thing I dont really know what to put... i thought about simply butting the type plates on a couple of them, but that would be way too simple... but its what I am using for now... if possible a decent set of items plz? and on Tyranitar I am using Dark Pulse as of now, but since he is a Physicla Sweeper i think Dark Pulse isnt the right thing... but i have no idea what else to put... =x

help please?

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Here's my new team that I've come upwith any help wouldbe greatly appreciated.

{staraptor} @ Choice Scarf
Jolly | Intimidate
252 Speed, 252 Atk, 6 Hp
~Close Combat
~U-Turn
~Brave Bird
~Return

{weavile} @ Choice Band
Jolly | Pressure
252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 Hp
~Night Slash
~Brick Break
~Ice Shard
~AerialAce

{dragonite} @ Choice Specs
Timid | Inner Focus
252 Sp Atk, 252 Speed, 6 Hp
~Draco Meteor/Dragon Pulse
~Flamethrower
~Ice Beam
~Thunder Bolt

{porygon-z} @ Lum Berry
Timid | Adaptability
252 Sp Atk, 252 Speed, 6 Hp
~Tri Attack
~Thunder Bolt
~Ice Beam
~Nasty Plot

{bronzong} @ Chesto
calm | Levitate
252 Sp Def, 252 Hp, 6 Def
~Rest
~Calm Mind
~Flash Cannon
~Stealth Rock

{weezing} @ Black Sludge
Bold | Levitate
252 Hp, 129 Def, 129 Sp Atk
~Pain Split
~Explosion
~Sludge Bomb
~Flamethrower


Fri May 09, 2008 10:35 pm
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i just started competitive battling and i got issues on covering my teams weaknesses. help me out on changing moves or pokemon replacements. HOLLA HOLLA HOLLA

Gengar
{gengar} @ Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 6 hp 252 sp. attack 252 speed
Nature Timid
- Shadow Ball
- Hypnosis
- Focus Blast
- Thunderbolt

Lead Pokemon, i try to put em to sleep then hit em hard. My moveset is based on other leads ive faced (weavile and starmie)

Lucario
{lucario}@ Focus Sash
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 6 hp 252 attack 252 speed
Nature Adamant
- Close Combat
- Bullet Punch
- Crunch
- Sword Dance

Physical Sweeper, i heard that SD lucario has the ability to own......ya dam right it does. Bullet punch is for priority against faster weak sweepers and STAB makes it stronger.

Gyarados
{gyarados}@ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 6 hp 252 attack 252 speed
Nature Adamant
- Waterfall
- Ice Fang
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance

My Pride and joy, this dancing beast owns, after it pops and locks, it destroys most pokemon, i considered a "bulkygyara" but thats not how i want my gyarados to roll.

Electivire
{electivire} @ Expert Belt
Ability: Motor Drive
EVs: 6 hp 252 attack 252 speed
Nature Jolly
- Thunder Punch
- Fire Punch
- Cross Chop
- Earthquake

STANDARD. Gyarados's right hand man, if i predict an electric move against gyara, ill switch in this bad boy in and get that speed boost. I love how this pokemon covers the 13 out of 17 types in the game....BYAHH!


Bronzong
{bronzong}@ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 hp 128 attack 128 defense
Nature Impish
- Gyroball
- Hypnosis
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock

Physical wall. does a good job.

Cressellia
{cresselia}@ leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 108 special attack / 148 Special Defense.
Nature Bold
- Chargebeam
- Ice beam
- Toxic
- Moonlight

Sponge/ annoyer. i just hope a sandstorm doesnt start


Can you please PM me with suggestions/changes, thank you


Sun May 18, 2008 11:17 pm
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I have only a half full team so I wanted you to give me some tips on what pokemon that fits good with my three pokes. If you write the movesets, ev-points and what personality they should have would be extra appreciated. And please comment on my three pokes as well;)

This is the Pokemon I currently have in my team.


Metagross @ Life Orb
Ability: Clear body
EVs: 252 HP/244 Atk/12 Def
Nature: Adamant
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Bullet Punch
- Explosion



Jolteon @ Focus Sash
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 Speed/252 spA/6 HP
Nature: Timid
- Thunderbolt
- HP ice
- Shadow Ball
- Swagger


Gyarados @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 216 HP/16 Atk/176 Def/100 Speed
Nature: Adamant
- Dragon Dance
- Taunt
- Waterfall
- Ice Fang ( Many uses dragon Pokemon so thats why I have Ice Fang instead of ex Earthquake)

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This post is pretty long, but here goes nothing:

I'm not into competitive battling, so I don't have any Tanks/Status Inflicters/Spikers or anything like that. (At least not yet.) My party is all sweepers. I have more than 6 because I'll switch between them.

{dragonite} Adamant Nature @
~Thunder Punch
~Earthquake
~Dragon Dance
~Dragon Claw

{salamence} Adamant Nature @
~Stone Edge/Fire Fang
~Earthquake/Fire Fang
~Dragon Dance
~Dragon Claw

Salamence and Dragonite are really similar, so I'll replace them with each other depending on what pokemon I'm going up against. (Battling friends, in-game, or if I start doing competitive battling) Although, since these two dragons can be used for many purposes, I could change their movesets, and use both of them in the same party.

{arcanine} Adamant Nature @
~Aerial Ace/Extreme Speed
~Crunch
~Flame Wheel
~Thunder Fang

I could also add Toxic and Roar somewhere in there seeing as I already have so many sweepers. If I did, It'd probably be: Toxic, Roar, Flame Wheel, and Thunder Fang.


{palkia} Timid Nature (Can't breed Palkias) @ Lustrous Orb
~Surf
~Flamethrower
~Aura Sphere
~Spacial Rend

Could add Ice Beam/Thunderbolt somewhere in there. Probably not though.

{charizard} Modest Nature @
~Air Slash
~Ancient Power
~Flamethrower/Heat wave
~Dragon Pulse

Flamethrower is more accurate,and has a bit less power. Heat Wave is less accurate, bit more power, less PP, and hits both Pokemon in a double battle.

{torterra} Adamant Nature @
~Earthquake
~Crunch
~Synthesis
~Razor Leaf

{staraptor} Adamant Nature @
~Wing Attack/Aerial Ace
~Fly/Quick attack
~Close Combat
~U-Turn

Aerial Ace ignores Evasion/Accuracy modifiers, but Wing Attack has 15 more PP (Although PP doesn't matter that much as I have 50+ PP Ups from the Lottery in Jubilife.) Yes, I know HM's are bad, but I use Fly to travel easier since I actually do the daily/weekly events where I have to fly everywhere, and it's useful sometimes. At least to me.

{luxray} Adamant nature @
~Crunch
~Ice Fang
~Charge/Fire Fang
~Thunder Fang/Spark

Fang flinches, but Spark has more accuracy, bit less power, and more PP. Charge is there for Pokes that are weak to Electric with more def, or Intimidate, but it could be replaced with Fire Fang. It also gives a Sp. Def. boost which can be helpful.

{starmie} Modest Nature @
~Surf
~Thunderbolt
~Ice Beam
~Recover

I might put Psychic instead of Recover.

{floatzel} Adamant Nature @
~Crunch
~Waterfall
~Ice Fang
~Brick Break

{tyranitar} Adamant Nature @
~Earthquake
~Rock Slide
~Ice Fang
~Thunder Fang/Fire Fang

Thunder Fang takes out water types, and fire takes out grass, bug, and steel types. (Out of weaknesses) But Ice Fang can get rid of grass anyways, and bug and steel types aren't used that much except for Bronzong and Ninjask. So Thunder Fang is probably better. Though Dragon Dance could also be an option. I might replace one of the Fangs for Crunch, since I'm lacking Dark moves, and it gets STAB.

{sceptile} Adamant Nature @
~Swords Dance
~Synthesis/Rock Slide
~Leaf Blade
~Earthquake/Rock Slide

Rock Slide can take out Flying, Fire, and Ice. It can also flinch. Earthquake can take out Fire, and Bug types. (Out of weaknesses)

Oh, and for EVs, it's basically the same for all of them, 252 Attack/Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP.

Right now, I don't know what to let them hold. Most likely Shell Bells or Leftovers.
Let me know what you think about it, I know it's not that great. PM me or rate it here. Also let me know if you have any suggestions for any other moves for my party. I'd like to know anything you guys have to offer my party, and I came up with them myself while looking at their learnsets on the Psydex. Oh, and also, I'd like to know what you guys think are the best 6. I'd say my best 6 were Dragonite/Salamence, Charizard, Starmie, Sceptile, Staraptor, and Luxray.

EDIT: Just in case I do start competitive battling, I'd like to know which of these would be the best:

{forretress} Calm/Bold Nature @ Leftovers
~Spikes
~Stealth Rock
~Rapid Spin
~Rest

{skarmory} Impish Nature @ Leftovers
~Drill Peck
~Spikes/Stealth Rocks
~Roar
~Rest

{torkoal} Calm/Bold Nature @ Leftovers
~Flamethrower
~Amnesia
~Stealth Rocks
~Yawn

Not sure about the EVs for them, suggestions would be appreciated. I'm thinking about 252 Speed/ HP, and either full in 1 type of defense, or split in both.

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Tue May 20, 2008 3:15 pm
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I don't have much of this team done, im almost finished with EV training for Darkrai, Lugia, absol
Darkrai@razor claw
2 HP, 2 Def, 2 spDef
Rest split in speed and spAtk
Dark Void
Dream Eater
Dark Pulse
????????

Absol @BrightPowder, super luck
10 HP, 10 Def, 10 spDef
255 attack, rest in speed
Slash
Night slash
Aerial ace
Stone Edge

Lugia @kings rock
39 spAtk, 39 speed, 10 HP, split of Def and spDef
Recover
Psychic/HP/Hydro Pump (dunno which one, help?)
Calm Mind
Aeroblast

Rayquaza @razor fang
No EVs... any suggestions?
dragon pulse
rest
flamethrower
Thunderbolt

I dont have this one, I plan to do this:
Banette @destiny knot
Attract
Shadow Claw
Giga Impact
Return

munchlax @leftovers
Body slam
Focus punch
toxic
rest

Want good phys sweepers out there, may replace banette
let me know, I want a more balanced team

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Tue May 27, 2008 4:25 pm
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Hello
Someone plz rate my hail team it worked super well when I first made it but now people are used to theme teams. I need to know what I can do to make mine different from all hail teams.
Abomasnow@focus sash(snow warning)
252 atk 126 def/sp.def 6 hp adament
earthquake
toxic
blizzard
wood hammer

Cloyster@ leftovers(skill link)
252 attack 252 hp bold
hail
spikes
explosion
rapid spin

walrein@leftovers(ice body)
252 def 252 sp.def 6 hp calm
blizzard
protect
toxic
surf

weavile@life orb(pressure)
252 atk 252 spd jolly
ice shard
ice punch
brick break
night slash

lapras@leftovers
252 def 252 sp.d calm
curse
blizzard
waterfall
body slam

Froslass@wise glasses
242 sp.atk 252 speed 6 sp.def hasty
taunt
blizzard
shadow ball
destiny bond



Well thats my team plz rate it and give me some tips on how to give it an unexpected edge that even people who have battles a hail team cannot beat.
Thank you


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I'm pretty proud of my team, but it's not yet perfect:

Blissey - Light Clay
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Light Screen
Earthquake

I need to get rid of Earthquake and replace it with a Special move as Blissey's Attack is low, but Special Attack is high.

Lucario - Black Belt
Dragon Pulse
ExtremeSpeed
Reversal
Aura Sphere

Torterra - Big Root
Earthquake
Giga Drain
Energy Ball
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Latias - Mind Plate
Fly
Psycho Shift
Psychic
Dragon Pulse

Skuntank BlackGlasses
Slash
Night Slash
Flamethrower
Dark Pulse

I don't need Dark Pulse. While it's damage is higher than Night Slash's, Skuntank's Attack is higher than Special Attack, so Night Slash does basically the same damage as Dark Pulse (and it's quicker, too.)

Gastrodon - Mystic Water
Surf
Body Slam
Waterfall
Ice Beam


Wow, I myself can see some weaknesses of my team just by posting it up.
Anyway, that's my team. I'm not gonna battle online yet until I'm happy with my team.

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My team is o.k., but it's in need of improvement

Luxray @ Quick Claw
Timid

Thunder
Thunder Fang
Charge
Crunch


Empoleon @ [none]
Impish

Flash Cannon
Surf
Brine
Waterfall


Rapidash @ [none]
Sassy

Stomp
Ember
Sunny Day
Fire Blast


Staraptor @ [none]
Lonely

Aerial Ace
Defog
Fly
Agility


Abomasnow @ Big Root
Calm

Grass Knot
Wood Hammer
Ice Shard
Ingrain

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I haven't finished my team (not even close), but this is what I'm planning to go with.

Edit: My team is almost done. Just need the Gengar. ^_^
Edit 2: My team is complete. Currently leveling up the Gengar.

{jirachi} @ Leftovers
Impish, Serene Grace
EVs: 240 HP / 56 Atk / 76 Def / 136 Spe
Wish
U-Turn
Zen Headbutt
Reflect/ Light Screen/ Thunder (Most likely Reflect or Light Screen unless I make a Rain Dance team)

Is Wish alone going to be able to keep my team healthy? Reflect and Light Screen is great support for the team, but I'm not sure which one to use. Reflect can keep Jirachi alive and can ensure Scizor's safety, defense-wise at least. Light Screen will shield from special attacks and can help Scizor's horrid special defense, but I don't know if it'll be enough to be worthwhile.

{scizor} @ Life Orb/Leftovers
Adamant, Swarm
EVs: 110 HP/ 252 Atk/ 148 Spe
Baton Pass
Agility
Brick Break/Iron Defense/Swords Dance/Roost/Iron Head/Aerial Ace
X-Scissor

I don't know how effective she'll be, but I think she's solid. She's a Baton Passer who can potentially become a late-game Agility Sweeper (this may change if I tinker with her moves). Agility makes her speed 404 (not really sure what it outspeeds and what it doesn't outspeed though). Since Scizor attracts fire like a magnet, my strategy is to use Agility, then Baton Pass to Heatran if the opponent switches to a fire type. The only flaw in this is if a person switches in a phazer (which will be common). I'm currently sticking with Brick Break.

{salamence} @ Choice Specs
Modest, Intimidate
EVs: 252 SpA/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP
Draco Meteor
Flamethrower
Hydro Pump
Dragon Pulse

I'm not sure if I should switch this Salamence for a physical one like DDmence. My team doesn't have a physical attacker, except for Scizor, but I'm not sure if she's reliable for that.

{heatran} @ Life Orb
Modest, Flash Fire
EVs: 122 HP/ 252 SpA/ 136 Spe
Metal Sound
Fire Blast
Earth Power
Dragon Pulse

Scizor's best buddy to baton pass to. The EVs are like that because Heatran doesn't have perfect speed IVs (close, 29). Metal Sound helps cause switches (my team lacks that). I was thinking of an alternate moveset to help counter Water types: Sunny Day, Solar Beam, Lava Plume/Fire Blast, Earth Power. I don't know if it's advisable though.

{vaporeon} @ Leftovers
Bold, Water Absorb
EVs: 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 SpA
Wish
Surf
Ice Beam/ Toxic
Protect/ Yawn

Vaporeon can cover Heatran if they try to attack his water weakness, although they most likely will try to hit his 4x ground weakness, and Vaporeon won't be of much help in that situation. I liked Protect and Yawn, but Protect feels safer.

{gengar} @ Wide Lens (depends with which set I go with)
Modest/ Timid
EVs: 6 HP/ 252 SpA/ 252 Spe
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Hypnosis
Focus Blast

The standard set is what I'll probably go with, but I'm also interested in the Focus Sash set and, seeing as how I'm lacking in the status department, the Double Status set. Curse my indecisiveness!

I have other ideas for the last two slots such as Cresselia taking place of Vaporeon, and Azelf or Electivire taking place of Gengar. My team lacks phazers, statusers, rapid spinners, and stealth rock/spikes setters. But do I need all of that? Blissey and other common threats may be a problem, and I don't know if I have good counters for them.

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Umm... i know that there are many teams wanting critics and so little r8ers, But if you guys have time, i would like to get a comment for my team... if you have time that is, if you're busy, its okay... :)

{espeon}
Attract
Psychic
Psybeam
Shadow Ball


{glaceon}
Ice Beam
Ice Fang
Ice Shard / Hail
Water Pulse / Reflect

{luxray}
Thunder
Thunderbolt
Thunder Fang
Crunch / Rain Dance (4 100% accuracy of thunder)


{dialga}
Flamethrower
Dragon Pulse
Dragon Claw
Roar of Time / [?]


{empoleon}
Surf
Hydro Pump / [?]
Earthquake
Waterfall / [?]


{staraptor} - 4 Flying Purposes
Fly
Wing Attack
Roost
Aerial Ace

The [?] means i;m not sure if it's good to put it there or not.

I'm a newbie when it's about WiFi battles but i've been playing since RBGY versions. There's no range here in Philippines 4 WiFi anyways. And i just wanted to let u know that i have no clue about those IV/EV/DV things and strategies. So if my team has bad moves, well it's because i'm a newbie in WiFi battles and i just focus in-game not about strategies. ^_^

Please Critic IF U HAVE TIME. ^_^

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Location: Riding on Salamence, looking for Bidoof to kill
The raters did quite a decent job last time, but that was an experimental team. I'd like the raters to rate this team.

{garchomp} @ Focus Sash/Yache Berry/Life Orb
Trait: Sand Veil
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Att 252 Spd 6 HP
~ Earthquake
~ Dragon Claw
~ Swords Dance
~ Fire Fang

A Swords-Chomp. What item? And should I really have Fire Fang? If not, then I'd be walled by Zong and Skarm.

{blissey} @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 Def 188 HP 70 Sp. Def
~ Softboiled
~ Aromatherapy
~ Counter
~ Ice Beam

Some help with the moveset would be greatly appreciated. There's not much use for Counter because of Electivire's popularity. What should I have as a replacement? Some help with the EVs would also be good.

{skarmory} @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
Nature: Impish/Careful
EVs: 252 Def 252 Sp. Def 6 Att
~ Stealth Rock
~ Spikes
~ Roar
~ ???

And the final slot is... What should I have? I was thinking about Drill Peck, but then decided against it. A better nature and EV spread would also be helpful.

{starmie} @ Choice Specs/???
Trait: Natural Cure
Nature: Modest/Timid
EVs: 252 Sp. Att 252 Spd 6 HP
~ Rapid Spin
~ Surf
~ Psychic
~ Grass Knot/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt

I know what you're thinking. I'm an idiot. But Starmie's the only Special Sweeper I could find that also knew Rapid Spin. And the question is, do I need Rapid Spin? Stealth Rock, Spikes and Toxic Spikes are precisely what made Forry OU, and they could be threatening sometimes. If I shouldn't have Rapid Spin, what should I have? I don't care if you replace the whole Pokemon, just give me a decent one that serves a similar role.

{scizor} @ Occa Berry :?/Leftovers :?
Trait: Swarm/The Other One
Nature: ???
EVs: ???
~ Agility
~ Swords Dance
~ Baton Pass
~ X-Scizor

My big request is: DO NOT REPLACE AGILITY, SOWRDS DANCE OR BATON PASS!!!!! Ture, I may end up being greedy, but that is okay if Bliss freezes them with Ice Beam. They might switch out, which could lead to problems, unless Blissey freezes them as well. Apart from the moveset, I need big help with this guy. This is because he baton-passes to the star of my team:

{salamence} @ ???
Trait: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Att 252 Spd 6 HP
~ Earthquake
~ Dragon Claw
~ Fire Fang
~ Thunder Fang

No change in Nature, no change in EVs, no change in role. Just give me a good item and a decent moveset, and I'll be happy. The majority of battles I have on Shoddy and Netbattle, Salamence ends up sweeping the whole of the opponent's team, Rayquaza or no Rayquaza. A good moveset, a good item, and I'll leave you alone :wink:.

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my team is in the works, I only have three done (as far a evs and all that stuff)
I wanted to build a team for the battle tower around a snorlax, but I'm not sure if my idea will work or if I'm just gona be wasting tms

{snorlax} @ Chesto Berry (thick fat)
Bashful, 252 HP, 126 Defense, 126 Spec. Def

Rest
Body slam / Block
Recycle
Toxic

I want to use toxic, but I want something that will be able to take hits and then revive itself to let toxic work, but I dont know if it's worth it to teach it Recycle. (it doesnt know recycle or toxic yet)

{starmie} @ nevermelt ice (natural care)
Docile, 252 Speed, 126 Defense, 126 Spec. Def

psychic
IceBeam
Recover
Camouflage

this is just to complement Snorlax's weakness, I thought it would be good against monferno or blazekin, but it's also really good against the dragon sweepers that I always lose against
(might also work against poison types that I can't use toxic on)

{blissey} @ ?
Hardy, 252 Hp, 126 Defense, 126 Spec. Def

Softboiled
Healing Wish
? (light screen?)
? (some kind of special attack?)

I was thinking that I could use blissey to give snorlax and starmie a little extra help staying in there but now I'm thinking that it might be unnessisary. I'm not sure though, so the other option is Gengar:

{gengar} @ spooky plate (levitate)
Modest, 252 speed, 126 defense, 126 spec. def

Hypnosis? (kills me when it doesnt work)
Thunder (also kills me)
Destiny Beyond
Shadow ball

special sweeper? it's defenses are so low that I could cry, I end up sacrificing it more often than I;d like to. I'm still trying to decide what would be best to complement starmie and snorlax, any ideas?


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Here is my party idea:

{scizor} w/ Leftovers; Careful/ Adament
EVs: 92 HP, 252 Atk, 164 Spd
-Swords Dance
-X-Scissor
-Iron Head
-Baton Pass

Starts with Swords Dance and then can swing for heavy damage or Baton Pass out to someone.
He is a Sweeper/ Baton Passer (Should he stick to one or the other?)

{rhyperior} w/ Choice Band (wait... Life Orb?); Adament
132 HP, 252 ATK, 64 Def, 60 SD
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Hammer Arm
-Megahorn

{weavile} w/ Shell Bell; Jolly/ Adament
4 HP, 252 Spd, 252 Atk
-Ice Punch
-Night Slash
-Return
-Brick Break

{togekiss} w/ Leftovers; Modest
4 HP, 252 Spd, 252 SA
-Nasty Plot
-Tri-Attack
-Air Slash
-Flame Thrower

{pikachu} w/ Lightball; Timid
4 HP, 252 Spd, 252 SA
-Thunderbolt
-Surf
-Thunder Wave
-Substitute

He could be a Raichu...

{cloyster} w/ Lum Berry/ Leftovers; Relaxed
188 HP, 48 Atk, 216 SA, 56 SD
-Ice Beam/ Surf
-Rapid Spin
-Spikes
-Explosion

Thanks for any help! (EDIT: Added additional information!)

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