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Jeneus
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:59 pm Posts: 173
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Volke wrote: Um...no. Egg moves are passed down through the father.
Umm... Yep, youre right. xD
Female Zubat+Compatible male hypnosis knower= Eventually a female zubat that knows hypnosis.
Female Zubat w/ hypnosis+Male straptor that knows brave bird= Zubat with Brave bird. Bleh
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Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:51 pm |
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Pokemaniac
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:27 pm Posts: 920 Location: Canada
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Jeneus, Sapphirath was talking about competitive battling or something like that (not sure if it was Shoddy or something like that). Anyways moving a long, one my team I need a good water type pokemon or a defender type. This is my team.
 Adamant@Yache Berry
ATK 255, 255 SPD
~Outrage
~Stone Edge
~Earthquake
~Swords Dance
 Jolly@Chople Berry
ATK 255 SPD 255
~Earthquake
~Dragon Dance
~Crunch
~Stone Edge
 Modest@Focus Sash
SP.ATK 255 SPD 255
~Energy Ball
~Thunder Bolt
~Focus Blast
~Shadow Ball
 Adamant@Expert Belt
252 ATK 252 SPD 6 DEF
~Thunder Punch
~Ice Punch
~Brick Break
~Giga Impact
 Modest@King's Rock
252 ATK 252 SP.DEF 252 6 SPD
~Air Slash
~Shadow Ball
~Aura Sphere
~Flame Thrower
And there you have it, my Pokemon Team. I have a few ideas of what the next possible teammate might be.....here are a few suggestions.
Empoleon, Foretress, Skarmory, Kingdra, PBR Raichu, Manaphy, Donphan, Steelix, Arcanine.
If there is anything else that suits my team info would be great!  Thanks!
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Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:15 pm |
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STRYGE
Bug Catcher
Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:41 am Posts: 2
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i got
gengar @ focus sash
modest, ev's: 255spec atack, 255 speed
iv's: 31 specatack, 30spec def, 30 speed
shadow ball
psychic
energy ball
thunderbolt
garchomp @ choice band
adamant, ev's:255 attack, 255 speed
iv's: 31 attack, 30 speed
crunch
brick break
outrage
earthquake
i only use outrage with him tho, he kills everything in one hit
machamp @ choice scarf, no guard
adamant, ev's: 255 attack, 255 speed
iv's: 31 attack, 30 def, 29 spec def, 30 speed
thunderpunch
dynamicpunch
ice punch
earthquake
i got a win streak of 103 with these fools is that even high? how could i improve?
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:32 am |
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Volke
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:08 pm Posts: 451 Location: Suwanee, GA, USA
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Pokemaniac: I'd suggest, from your list, a Skarmory or an Empoleon would be helpful. Skarm is a great defender, who can also phaze and set up Spikes or Stealth Rocks. It can also Roost to heal, and its weakness to electric can potentially help Electivire. Its weakness to fire is covered by your other team members. As for Empoleon, it's different from the 'standard' wall and it has good type coverage as well as having 11 resistances.
I know that you didn't ask your team to be rated, but for Electivire, I'd suggest Earthquake over Giga Impact, since it provides better coverage and Hyper Beam-esque moves are generally not very good. I would suggest Hypnosis on Gengar instead of Energy Ball, but that's up to you. Also, be careful with Focus Sash when you're playing in the sand. You can be at full health and the storm will ruin Focus Sash. As for Togekiss, perhaps Roost over Shadow Ball? Btw, I'm assuming your Togekiss's EV-spread is 252 HP/ 252 Sp.Def/ 6 Spe? It was hard to tell. It looked like you had 3 stats with 252 EVs per stat.
Stryge: I'm assuming this team is for the Battle Tower? Wifi Battle Tower? For Gengar, it'd be better if you give Hypnosis and Focus Blast over Energy Ball and Psychic, since Psychic covers about the same thing as Shadow Ball. Focus Blast is to take care of Steel types and Dark types. If you don't like the accuracy of Hypnosis and Focus Blast, then let it hold Wide Lens. You can abuse Focus Sash with Counter/Mirror Coat and Destiny Bond. Hypnotize something to disrupt them, then Shadow Ball to your heart's content. Then Counter when you are pretty sure that an enemy's attack will OHKO. With the next Pokemon coming in, you can Destiny Bond and take them down with you. Careful for Sandstream if you try this.
As for Garchomp, you can use Scarf if you want to be even faster, but the Choice Band should be just fine. I would suggest Fire Fang over Brick Break, since you'll have trouble against steels. Your Machamp looks good, but you can try Fire Punch or Stone Edge instead of Earthquake if you want. Fire Punch takes care of Bronzong and Heracross. Stone Edge takes care of Heracross as well. These are just options though.
Overall, your Battle Tower team looks pretty good.
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:24 am |
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Dark Typhlosion
Ace Trainer
Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:39 am Posts: 281 Location: Somewhere...
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Ok once again I changed my team and here's what I've got (not sure about natures except  's and  's):
 @ Muscle Band / Choice Scarf (Physical Sweeper)
Adamant
252 Atk , 252 Speed , 6 HP
- Poison Jab
- Flare Blitz
- Sky Uppercut
- Stone Edge
Can take out: Grass / Ice / Bug / Steel / Normal / Dark / Fire / Flying types
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 @ Petaya Berry (Special Sweeper)
Modest
252 Sp. Atk , 252 Speed , 6 HP
- Agility
- Substitute / Grass Knot
- Ice Beam
- Surf
Can take out (w/ Grass Knot): Grass / Ground / Flying / Dragon / Fire / Rock / Water
Tactics:
-1- Substitute, use Agility, Petaya does its work, sweep.
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 @ Shell Bell / Big Root (helps Leech Seed)
Brave
252 Atk , 128 Def , 128 HP
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Wood Hammer / Stone Edge
- Earthquake
Can take out (w/ Wood Hammer): Water / Rock / Ground / Fire / Electric / Poison / Rock / Steel
Tactics:
-1- Substitute, use Leech Seed then attack.
Notes:
Get rid of Ice / Fire / Flying types w/ Stone Edge
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 @ Leftovers (Annoyer)
Jolly
252 Speed , 128 Atk , 128 HP
- Hypnosis
- Confuse Ray
- Toxic
- Aerial Ace
Can take out: Grass / Bug / Fighting
Tactics:
-1- If  is the fastest: Confuse opponent, hopefully hurts itself in its confusion, use Hypnosis then Aerial Ace
-2- Again, if  is the fastest: Confuse opponent, hopefully hurts itself in its confusion, use Toxic then Aerial Ace
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 @ Yache Berry / Life Orb / Leftovers / Persim Berry (to recover from confusion when using Outrage) (Physical Sweeper)
Naughty
252 Atk , 252 Speed, 6 HP
- Outrage / Dragon Claw
- Fire Fang
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
Can take out: Grass / Ice / Bug / Steel / Fire / Electric / Poison / Rock / Dragon (takes out many types)
Tactics:
-1- Swords Dance, Outrage and when it gets confused, the Persim berry heals him, sweep. (Must have 5+ Persim berries in stock)
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 @ Shuca Berry / Leftovers
Impish
200 Def , 188 Atk , 122 HP
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
Can take out: Ice / Rock / Fire / Electric / Poison / Rock / Steel
Tactics:
-1- Use Meteor Mash and/or Earthquake until  's HP is low then use Rest and Sleep Talk.
-2- Must have 5+ Chesto berries in case  's HP is low when asleep. So, wake him up then rest.
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So raters ? Is my team good enough now ?
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:14 pm |
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koipen
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:01 am Posts: 274
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You can use Crobat as a lead. That works really well.
Crobat @ Choice scarf
Jolly | Inner Focus
252 Spd 252 Att 4 Hp
-Hypnosis
-U-turn
-Taunt
-Aerial ace
Idea is, that you are faster than anything with Choice Scarf (Only CScarf Ninjask, Electrode and Deoxys-S will outspeed you). Hypnosis other leads, or Taunt things like Bronzong.
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Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:52 am |
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Dark Typhlosion
Ace Trainer
Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:39 am Posts: 281 Location: Somewhere...
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Yes of course but I wanted  to annoy my opponent by confusing him and poisoning him/putting him asleep. And what about the rest of my team ? I would appreciate if you rated my other Pokemon 
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Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:56 am |
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Volke
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:08 pm Posts: 451 Location: Suwanee, GA, USA
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Dark Typhlosion wrote: Ok once again I changed my team and here's what I've got (not sure about natures except  's and  's):
Ugh, how many times do I have to rate this team? You hardly made any changes.
 @ Muscle Band / Choice Scarf (Physical Sweeper)
Adamant
252 Atk , 252 Speed , 6 HP
- Poison Jab
- Flare Blitz
- Sky Uppercut
- Stone Edge
Can take out: Grass / Ice / Bug / Steel / Normal / Dark / Fire / Flying types
Poison Jab is not a very good choice, because it offers horrible type coverage. It gets resisted by almost everything, and steel is immune to it. The only thing it hits for SE is grass, which fire attacks already covers. The 30% poison is generally not worth it, since your main objective with Blaziken is to destroy enemies quickly.
The best option is Thunder Punch, since you can take down water types, but you can only get that through Emerald's move tutors. Go with Focus Punch or Brave Bird. Focus Punch is a strong attack, but it requires prediction to use it well. Brave Bird is mainly for Infernape, but other than that, it doesn't offer much.
Choice Scarf is better than Muscle Band, because Muscle Band boosts very little (10%), and Blaziken would like the speed. If you don't want to be locked into a move, then give it Agility instead of Poison Jab and give it Leftovers or Life Orb to hold instead.
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 @ Petaya Berry (Special Sweeper)
Modest
252 Sp. Atk , 252 Speed , 6 HP
- Agility
- Substitute / Grass Knot
- Ice Beam
- Surf
Can take out (w/ Grass Knot): Grass / Ground / Flying / Dragon / Fire / Rock / Water
Tactics:
-1- Substitute, use Agility, Petaya does its work, sweep.
Nothing to say here.
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 @ Shell Bell / Big Root (helps Leech Seed)
Brave
252 Atk , 128 Def , 128 HP
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Wood Hammer / Stone Edge
- Earthquake
Can take out (w/ Wood Hammer): Water / Rock / Ground / Fire / Electric / Poison / Rock / Steel
Tactics:
-1- Substitute, use Leech Seed then attack.
Notes:
Get rid of Ice / Fire / Flying types w/ Stone Edge
I would just say use the spread on Smogon: Impish 252 HP/ 20 Def/ 236 Spe. Go with leftovers because you will hardly have time to attack. Big Root isn't all that helpful, since you have to have Leech Seed set up, and even then, the boost is small. Good prediction is required to use this set well, because you'll be slower than pretty much everything else.
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 @ Leftovers (Annoyer)
Jolly
252 Speed , 128 Atk , 128 HP
- Hypnosis
- Confuse Ray
- Toxic
- Aerial Ace
Can take out: Grass / Bug / Fighting
Tactics:
-1- If  is the fastest: Confuse opponent, hopefully hurts itself in its confusion, use Hypnosis then Aerial Ace
-2- Again, if  is the fastest: Confuse opponent, hopefully hurts itself in its confusion, use Toxic then Aerial Ace
Looks fine, but have him lead. Generally, you should use Hypnosis first. That way you are guaranteed to use another status attack. Opponents will most likely switch out after they are asleep, so use Toxic or Confuse Ray afterwards.
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 @ Yache Berry / Life Orb / Leftovers / Persim Berry (to recover from confusion when using Outrage) (Physical Sweeper)
Naughty
252 Atk , 252 Speed, 6 HP
- Outrage / Dragon Claw
- Fire Fang
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
Can take out: Grass / Ice / Bug / Steel / Fire / Electric / Poison / Rock / Dragon (takes out many types)
Tactics:
-1- Swords Dance, Outrage and when it gets confused, the Persim berry heals him, sweep. (Must have 5+ Persim berries in stock)
What...are you talking about when you say 5+ berries? If you plan to use this on Wifi, the berries will not be wasted, so you only need one...same deal here if you plan to use it in the Battle Tower, regardless if it's Wifi or not. If you want to use Swords Dance, you may as well stick with Dragon Claw, so you don't get locked into Outrage for a few turns.
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 @ Shuca Berry / Leftovers
Impish
200 Def , 188 Atk , 122 HP
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
Can take out: Ice / Rock / Fire / Electric / Poison / Rock / Steel
Tactics:
-1- Use Meteor Mash and/or Earthquake until  's HP is low then use Rest and Sleep Talk.
-2- Must have 5+ Chesto berries in case  's HP is low when asleep. So, wake him up then rest.
Again, I have no clue what you're talking about when you say 5+. As for the EV spread, I would just use Smogon's spread and nature: Adamant 252 HP / 176 Atk / 40 Def / 40 SpD.
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Sorry if I sounded harsh. Be careful of Choice Scarf Heatran, cuz those are fairly common and your team is kinda weak to them.
So raters ? Is my team good enough now ?
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Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:30 am |
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Dark Typhlosion
Ace Trainer
Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:39 am Posts: 281 Location: Somewhere...
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Thank you very much, again, and sorry for wasting your time. I thought that when you used a berry it's gone that's why I put 5+.
Again thanks 
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Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:38 am |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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WOW! O__O
Volke i didn't knew you were a Rater...
*Skip this part if you don't have patience*
Let's just go to what matters...so yeah i got this tourney coming on and i have my strategy almost all done...
So I have this last Teamslot ...And I want to use something cool just for kicks so...
I thought about 2 nice Sceptiles i got from a friend,and i would like a second or maybe third opinion before changing they...
So they're like this...
 @Leftovers
Nature:Timid
EVs:HP:4 Sp.Att & Speed Max
Ability:Overgrow
-Energy Ball
-Hidden Power(ICE 70 FTW!)
-Substitute
-Leech Seed
*I think he's OK...*
and
 @Leftovers
Nature:Jolly
EVs:HP:4 Att & Speed Max
Ability:Overgrow
-Leaf Blade
-Crunch
-Synthesis
-Leech Seed
I was thinking about remove Synthesis and Crunch for Substitute and X-scissors for other grasses that resist
Leech Seed...
Or make him a Full Sweeper with Sword Dance Plus 2 Fillers...
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Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:48 pm |
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Dark Typhlosion
Ace Trainer
Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:39 am Posts: 281 Location: Somewhere...
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I am not a rater but I thought this might help you out. You'll find many options for both Sceptiles.
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/sceptile
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Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:12 pm |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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You're right and wrong...
Right:You're not a rater...
Wrong:This link don't help at all...
At least not after i already readed the page upside down...
I already seen this movesets...
I asked for OPINIONS...Not for a standard movesets... 
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Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:21 pm |
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tpjerematic
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 12:48 pm Posts: 79 Location: United Kingdom, or according to Nintendo nowhere as our country normally doesn't exist to them.
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Hey guys, I came up with this idea for a team i would like to try out. It would be super awesome if one of you guys could have a look at it.
 @ Bright Powder
Adamant/Jolly Ev's A(252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def )/J(126 HP / 126 Atk / 6 Def / 252 Spe )
Moveset
Earthquake
Sandstorm
Stealth Rock
Rapid Spin
This is my lead Poke. If i go for Jolly i would aim to set-up stealth rock before the opponent and hold to see if they risk a switch out. If not i would use sandstorm to boost evasion and hit with earthquake or rapid spin any traps then withdraw for later use.
 @ Life Orb
Inner Focus
Adamant Ev's 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Moveset
Close Combat
Swords Dance
ExtremeSpeed
Blaze Kick
Again another near perfect smogon copy only i intend to use blaze kick to add a fire type move to my list. And i dont intent to use lucario against a flying type or another fighting type anyway.
 @ Expert Belt
Hyper Cutter
Adamant Ev's 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 SpD
Moveset
Thunder Fang
Ice Fang
Iron Head
Swords Dance
This Pokes main role would be to act as type back up against dragons and the like.
 @ focus sash
Adaptibility
Modest Ev's 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Moveset
Conversion
Lock On
Tri Attack
Zap Cannon
 @ Black Sludge
Quiet Ev's 120 HP / 136 Atk / 252 SpA
Moveset
Sludge Bomb
Fire Blast
Shadow Ball
Explosion
This set-up is meant as a surprise. You'll hit with super effective damage against quite a few opponents, and when your opponent brings in Blissey or another Special wall to block you, you can blow up the big Smogon mascot to clear the way for a Special attacking threat like Azelf or Zapdos. Your Fire move is for Heracross and Steels. Fire Blast will 2HKO Heracross and is recommended because Weezing can afford to miss once in a while. Shadow Ball and your Fire move together cover some of the most common Rock resists. This helps because Steels and Ghosts can absorb your Explosion and proceed to laugh at you. And you don't want that, since Weezing's Explosion is no laughing matter. At 250 Attack, Explosion will OHKO Blissey pretty often, if not all the time when Stealth Rock or Spikes have dented Blissey. YES THIS IS DIRECTLY PULLED FROM SMOGON.
 @ razor claw
Bold Ev's 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpA
Moveset
Surf
Ice Beam
Toxic
Protect
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Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:10 pm |
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Volke
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:08 pm Posts: 451 Location: Suwanee, GA, USA
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Bushin wrote: WOW! O__O
Volke i didn't knew you were a Rater...
Lulz, well someone has to do it. Okay, so we have Sapphirath, but still...
You can't penalize me for joining late.
As for your Sceptile, I'm not sure which one you want to use...the first one looks alright. On Smogon, they put Grass Knot over Energy Ball. I'm just curious as to why. I'm not sure which one is better.  Well, just stick with Energy Ball. I like that Hidden Power there.
Ah, I see your dilema with the second one; Crunch and Synthesis are Egg Moves, so if you get rid of them, but want them back, then that would...suck. I checked on Smogon, and I didn't realize that he was so fast. o.O Base 120? Jeez...anyway, it depends on whether you want defensive style or offensive style. I don't even know your team, so I can't make a judgment based on that either (yes, I know, filler.  ). I would go with Swords Dance. Have some fun.
As for tpjerematic:
tpjerematic wrote: Hey guys, I came up with this idea for a team i would like to try out. It would be super awesome if one of you guys could have a look at it.
 @ Bright Powder
Adamant/Jolly Ev's A(252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def )/J(126 HP / 126 Atk / 6 Def / 252 Spe )
Moveset
Earthquake
Sandstorm
Stealth Rock
Rapid Spin
This is my lead Poke. If i go for Jolly i would aim to set-up stealth rock before the opponent and hold to see if they risk a switch out. If not i would use sandstorm to boost evasion and hit with earthquake or rapid spin any traps then withdraw for later use.
This guy looks to me more like a Utility Pokemon, so give it an Impish Nature and max out its HP and Def. The remaining 6 can go into Atk. Sandstorm won't help your team at all, even though it will help Sandslash. Half of your team is vulnerable to it. It'll even ruin Porygon-Z's Focus Sash. Granted, it'll go away, but that's still quite a few turns away, and you'll just end up wasting a first turn, since Sandslash is pretty slow anyway, even with Jolly and max speed. Give it Stone Edge instead, since Sandstorm is only helping Sandslash.
If you want to abuse Sand Veil and Bright Powder, then get a Pokemon with Sand Stream onto your team. Hippowdon is a great lead on sandstorm teams. It could even set up Stealth Rocks, so your Sandslash is free to Toxic instead. You can keep Sandslash in the back and have him switch in and do his work. Keep in mind though, a Sand Stream brings up a never-ending Sandstorm.
You can opt for an offensive set with that Adamant spread of yours and go with Swords Dance, Earthquake, Nightslash, and Rapid Spin. Maybe even give it Razor Claw if you want to try to get a crit. The best item, I think, is Leftovers. Bright Powder is better if there is a sandstorm though.
 @ Life Orb
Inner Focus
Adamant Ev's 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Moveset
Close Combat
Swords Dance
ExtremeSpeed
Blaze Kick
Again another near perfect smogon copy only i intend to use blaze kick to add a fire type move to my list. And i dont intent to use lucario against a flying type or another fighting type anyway.
Yep, this guy is scary as heck. It definitely scares me. Mainly because of Extreme Speed after Swords Dance. Without Crunch, you're going to have trouble taking down Dusknoir and similar ghosts, since they're immune to your other moves. Other than that, it looks fine.
 @ Expert Belt
Hyper Cutter
Adamant Ev's 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 SpD
Moveset
Thunder Fang
Ice Fang
Iron Head
Swords Dance
This Pokes main role would be to act as type back up against dragons and the like.
Mawile will have a hard time getting an attack in, since its base speed is really low, and it's not very sturdy either, so it won't be able to take down dragons.
 @ focus sash
Adaptibility
Modest Ev's 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Moveset
Conversion
Lock On
Tri Attack
Zap Cannon
There's a pretty hefty problem with using Conversion: 1. Assuming that it won't select Conversion, 2/3 of your moves are normal types, so you have a low % chance of changing your type. 2. It's not worth changing your type, because Porygon-Z would die quicker. Yes, he has Focus Sash, but don't you want to wreak even more havoc upon your enemies' team before Porygon-Z falls? Taking a turn to use Conversion would take up too much time.
Put Ice Beam instead of Conversion, since it could destroy Dragons. Focus Sash will help you guarantee that an Ice Beam will go through. If you want to be faster than Salamence and Garchomp, then go with a Timid nature. The Lock On and Zap Cannon combo seems risky to me, but if you're fine with the risk, then go for it. Do you know if switching out cancels Lock On's effect? If it does, then you shouldn't use it. I'll go ask in the Q's and A's thread...
 @ Black Sludge
Quiet Ev's 120 HP / 136 Atk / 252 SpA
Moveset
Sludge Bomb
Fire Blast
Shadow Ball
Explosion
This set-up is meant as a surprise. You'll hit with super effective damage against quite a few opponents, and when your opponent brings in Blissey or another Special wall to block you, you can blow up the big Smogon mascot to clear the way for a Special attacking threat like Azelf or Zapdos. Your Fire move is for Heracross and Steels. Fire Blast will 2HKO Heracross and is recommended because Weezing can afford to miss once in a while. Shadow Ball and your Fire move together cover some of the most common Rock resists. This helps because Steels and Ghosts can absorb your Explosion and proceed to laugh at you. And you don't want that, since Weezing's Explosion is no laughing matter. At 250 Attack, Explosion will OHKO Blissey pretty often, if not all the time when Stealth Rock or Spikes have dented Blissey. YES THIS IS DIRECTLY PULLED FROM SMOGON.
That IS an interesting set. Watch out for Heatran, because he is Weezing's perfect counter; he gets stronger if you hit him with a fire attack, he's immune to poison attacks, and he resists Shadow Ball, so just switch out if you see him switch in. Or you can explode, but you'd have to first survive his attack, so it might not be best to explode, besides, he might survive.
 @ razor claw
Bold Ev's 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpA
Moveset
Surf
Ice Beam
Toxic
Protect
Looks good here. After you toxic, you could even stall with Protect. Nice. I would go for Leftovers instead of Razor Claw, because he's more of a defensive Pokemon.
Hope this helps. 
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tpjerematic
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 12:48 pm Posts: 79 Location: United Kingdom, or according to Nintendo nowhere as our country normally doesn't exist to them.
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OK i reviewed the team, Most notably i (painfully and after much thinking to come up with somthing to replace it) removed mawile. Mostly 'cause Volke is right, its just too weak.
All changes are in green
 @ Bright Powder
Impish Ev's (252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def )
Moveset
Earthquake
Sandstorm
Stealth Rock
Rapid Spin
This is my lead Poke. I aim to set-up stealth rock in the first turn. Then i would rapid spin any traps they try to set up and i would use sandstorm to boost evasion and hit with earthquake.
I will stick with the moveset simply because if both sandslash and lucario are OK'ed before the sandstorm ends i can switch in golduck to cloud nine it away.
The biggest problem i can see with this is that it could take 3 turns to set up sandstorm by which time sandslash could be OK'ed.
To deal with that i could: 1 SR 2 SS 3 RS if nessessary
 @ Life Orb
Inner Focus
Adamant Ev's 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Moveset
Close Combat
Swords Dance
ExtremeSpeed
Blaze Kick
Again another near perfect smogon copy only i intend to use blaze kick to add a fire type move to my list. And i dont intent to use lucario against a flying type or another fighting type anyway.
@ Leftovers
Cloud Nine
Timid Ev's 6 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Moveset
Surf
Hypnosis
Psychic
Disable
This Pokes main role would be to remove any weather moves. i.e. sandstorm.
 @ focus sash
Adaptibility
Modest Ev's 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Moveset
Nasty Plot
Lock On
Tri Attack
Zap Cannon
I replaced conversion with nasty plot. That way i can boost the SpA stat and hit with either tri attack or if i still have the focus sash use lock on followed by Zap Cannon.
 @ Black Sludge
Quiet Ev's 120 HP / 136 Atk / 252 SpA
Moveset
Sludge Bomb
Fire Blast
Shadow Ball
Explosion
This set-up is meant as a surprise. You'll hit with super effective damage against quite a few opponents, and when your opponent brings in Blissey or another Special wall to block you, you can blow up the big Smogon mascot to clear the way for a Special attacking threat like Azelf or Zapdos. Your Fire move is for Heracross and Steels. Fire Blast will 2HKO Heracross and is recommended because Weezing can afford to miss once in a while. Shadow Ball and your Fire move together cover some of the most common Rock resists. This helps because Steels and Ghosts can absorb your Explosion and proceed to laugh at you. And you don't want that, since Weezing's Explosion is no laughing matter. At 250 Attack, Explosion will OHKO Blissey pretty often, if not all the time when Stealth Rock or Spikes have dented Blissey. YES THIS IS DIRECTLY PULLED FROM SMOGON.
 @ leftovers
Bold Ev's 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpA
Moveset
Surf
Ice Beam
Toxic
Protect
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Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:40 am |
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Volke
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:08 pm Posts: 451 Location: Suwanee, GA, USA
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You're gonna want to keep Sandslash alive for a while, since the rocks and spikes might be set up later. He's going to be pretty useful on your team, with Rapid Spin and all. Yep, Stealth Rock on the very first turn. Pretty cool idea with Cloud Nine. As for Golduck's moveset, why not Calm Mind instead of Disable? You can get a free Calm Mind in after you put them to sleep, since they'll probably switch out. If they foolishly stay in then you can get another one in. Everything else looks fine though. I think you're good to go.
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Sapphirath
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:25 am Posts: 627 Location: Singapore
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Bushin wrote: WOW! O__O
Volke i didn't knew you were a Rater...
*Skip this part if you don't have patience*
Let's just go to what matters...so yeah i got this tourney coming on and i have my strategy almost all done...
So I have this last Teamslot ...And I want to use something cool just for kicks so...
I thought about 2 nice Sceptiles i got from a friend,and i would like a second or maybe third opinion before changing they...
So they're like this...
 @Leftovers
Nature:Timid
EVs:HP:4 Sp.Att & Speed Max
Ability:Overgrow
-Energy Ball
-Hidden Power(ICE 70 FTW!)
-Substitute
-Leech Seed
*I think he's OK...*
and
 @Leftovers
Nature:Jolly
EVs:HP:4 Att & Speed Max
Ability:Overgrow
-Leaf Blade
-Crunch
-Synthesis
-Leech Seed
I was thinking about remove Synthesis and Crunch for Substitute and X-scissors for other grasses that resist
Leech Seed...
Or make him a Full Sweeper with Sword Dance Plus 2 Fillers...
Your 1st Sceptile looks good. I have some suggestions for your Physical sweeping one though. Use the Full Sweeper set you're thinking of. It's better to increase your chances in one category then gamble on 2 catergories with lower chances on each side. Volke isn't Rater!? Hmm, I'm surprised, he's not bad, not bad at all...
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:55 am |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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Thanks guys!
That was really helpful!
Btw... I didn't said he isn't a rater..Ii just didn't knew...
And yeah he's competent enough.
Good luck with the ratings Volke!
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:46 am |
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Fizzles
Bug Catcher
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:58 am Posts: 3 Location: Ironforge, World of Warcraft
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Since everyone's team has been rated up-to now, I'll post some things here
Ok.
 - Mixed Sweeper
Lava Plume/Flamethrower
Psychic
ThunderPunch
Earthquake
 - Toxi-Trapper
Giga Drain
Toxic
Recover
Protect
 - Physical Sweeper
Bulk Up
Brick Break
Earthquake
Aerial Ace
 or  - Special Sweeper
Calm Mind
Psychic
HP Ground
Energy Ball
 - Special Sweeper
Ice Beam
Surf
Shock Wave/Psychic
HP Fire
 - Phsyical Sweeper
Earthquake
Brick Break
Bulk Up
Aerial Ace
Thanks in advance.
-Fizzles
ps can you also reccomend some items/natures/effort points?
theres no more school for 6 weeks and i have nothing to do.
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tpjerematic
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 12:48 pm Posts: 79 Location: United Kingdom, or according to Nintendo nowhere as our country normally doesn't exist to them.
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im not a rater but i'll give it a shot. I'll do the first 2 volke will no doubt have better ideas for the rest
Fizzles wrote: Since everyone's team has been rated up-to now, I'll post some things here
Ok.
 @ Expert Belt
Modest. 252 SpA / 126 SpD / 126 Def / 6 Spe
Lava Plume/Flamethrower
Fire Blast
Thunder Bolt
Hidden Power ice
Looking at the base it would be a lot more effective to use magmortar as a special sweeper than a mixed because of its large special attack.
Mabye use thunder bolt instead of thunderpunch. and hidden power ice instead of earthquake for taking out rock types.
I dont think psychic is worth using with magmorter, there are better spec moves you could use. like focus blast
 @ leftovers
impish 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SpD
Earthquake
Toxic
Recover
Protect
Erm you seem to lack a trapping move ..... and looking at cradily's defences protect seems to be a little wasted. unless you aim to use it as a staller, in which case you would need a trapping move as well.
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:04 am |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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tpjerematic wrote: im not a rater but i'll give it a shot. I'll do the first 2 volke will no doubt have better ideas for the rest
Fizzles wrote: Since everyone's team has been rated up-to now, I'll post some things here
Ok.
 @ Expert Belt
Modest. 252 SpA / 126 SpD / 126 Def / 6 Spe
Lava Plume/Flamethrower
Fire Blast
Thunder Bolt
Hidden Power ice
Looking at the base it would be a lot more effective to use magmortar as a special sweeper than a mixed because of its large special attack.
Mabye use thunder bolt instead of thunderpunch. and hidden power ice instead of earthquake for taking out rock types.
I dont think psychic is worth using with magmorter, there are better spec moves you could use. like focus blast
 @ leftovers
impish 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SpD
Earthquake
Toxic
Recover
Protect
Erm you seem to lack a trapping move ..... and looking at cradily's defences protect seems to be a little wasted. unless you aim to use it as a staller, in which case you would need a trapping move as well.
Excuse me...
You can't just come here and post whatever you want...
There are official raters here so everybody that ask for team rates know that they will recieve GOOD advice from people that know what they're talking about...
Just for you know...
Magmortar is a great Mixed Sweeper and Cradily don't need a trapping move at all...
So when you try to give advice to someone,please search a little more ok?
And do it OUTSIDE the official rating center...
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SuperBlastoise
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:20 am Posts: 114 Location: Liverpool, England
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I was making a hippowdon, which needs to be able to take a lot of damage, and deal moderate damage, however I need help over which of these to use. Also, if anything else should be changed, I'm taking helpful suggestions  .
Hippowdon
Slack Off (egg move, help it last that much longer)
Earthquake (deal moderate damage)
Crunch (Basically to help with levitate and flying pokemon, you get the point)
Toxic (Not too sure about this, but hopefully it'll survive long enough for it to be helpful)
Now this is where I need help, aside from move suggestions.
Firstly, should I use Impish (+def, -sp. atk) with 6 hp EVs, and 252 sp. def and def EVs? This is for maxing out the def capabilities, although it is slightly lacking sp. def wise, which could be dangerous with mixed and special sweepers. The attack stat isn't too major on a tank.
Without IVs, (so keep in mind it'll be higher with these included) that will be:
Level 100 Hippowdon:
327 HP
229 ATK
334 DEF
99 SPD
126 SP ATK
212 SP DEF
Or should I use Careful (+sp. def, -sp. atk) with 6 hp EVs, and 252 sp. def and 252 def EVs? This is for balancing out the special defence to help with special sweepers, although it sacrifices the defence stat. Once again keep in mind I'm not bothered too much about the attack stat.
Without IVs, (so keep in mind it'll be higher with these included) that will be:
Level 100 Hippowdon:
327 HP
229 ATK
304 DEF
99 SPD (It's meant to take hits...)
126 SP ATK (Useless on a physical tank)
233 SP DEF
In advance I'll thank everyone.
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:57 am |
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Fizzles
Bug Catcher
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:58 am Posts: 3 Location: Ironforge, World of Warcraft
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...Not to be pushy or anything, but what about the other 4..? 
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:00 pm |
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SuperBlastoise
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:20 am Posts: 114 Location: Liverpool, England
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If you were talking to me, I just like to take setting up a team one pokemon at a time, so for example, devise one, EV train it, gain correct moves, then move on. Besides it took up loads just for one pokemon  .
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:18 pm |
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Volke
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:08 pm Posts: 451 Location: Suwanee, GA, USA
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Bushin wrote: Excuse me...
You can't just come here and post whatever you want...
There are official raters here so everybody that ask for team rates know that they will recieve GOOD advice from people that know what they're talking about...
Just for you know...
Magmortar is a great Mixed Sweeper and Cradily don't need a trapping move at all...
So when you try to give advice to someone,please search a little more ok?
And do it OUTSIDE the official rating center...
A bit harsh don't you think? I do agree that everyone wants good advice, but restricting it to official raters is....well, most of the official raters don't come here anymore,  with Sapphirath being the only true official rater. I'm technically not qualified either (sign-ups are down T-T). I'm glad you approve of me though. And every (recent) "rate my team/Pokemon thread" have been locked by Registeel_Rocks, so no one can give advice outside of the rating center. That leaves people like tpjerematic with nowhere to turn to. It couldn't hurt to try, and we could just correct the person.
With all that said, I do agree about Magmortar being a good Mixed Sweeper. That said, a purely special one works just as well. Cradily doesn't even learn a trapping move.  I'm not saying it's a bad Toxic user, just it technically isn't a Toxi- Trapper, like the way Fizzles described it.
Anyway, on with the rating:
Fizzles wrote: Since everyone's team has been rated up-to now, I'll post some things here
Ok.
 - Mixed Sweeper
Lava Plume/Flamethrower
Psychic
ThunderPunch
Earthquake
Magmortar is like a reverse Electivire if you think about. Their physical and special attack stats are reversed, but they both learn very similar moves. It's a shame it's slower though, and it doesn't have as good of an ability. Let's try to model it like the Electivire version. If you had to choose between Lava Plume and Flamethrower, give it Lava Plume. Take advantage of the fact that not many Pokemon knows that move and the 30% burn is very useful.
I'm not certain whether ThunderPunch or Thunderbolt is better for this guy. I would just go with Thunderbolt, just to be safe. Psychic isn't so great. Psychic moves, albeit strong, don't have a lot of type coverage. If you could get Hidden Power Ice, like tpjerematic suggested, that'd be great, since it could take down dragons. If not, then go for Earthquake and Cross Chop. Cross Chop>Earthquake if you do get HP Ice, because it can slay Blissey. If you don't like its accuracy, then Brick Break would work, but Cross Chop is the better option.
Items: Life Orb or Expert Belt. Leftovers work too, but the increase in power is better overall. Nature: Mild or Lonely would work. I'm not all too great with EV spreads, so all I can say is go with Smogon's.
 - Toxi-Trapper
Giga Drain
Toxic
Recover
Protect
I'm rather unfamiliar with Cradily, so I can't help out much here. I could think of some fun ideas if it knew Leech Seed, like a Toxic, Leech Seed, and Ingrain combo but alas, it can't. It takes forever to set up anyway.
This guy needs leftovers for an item. As for the moveset, it doesn't look too bad. Don't know about nature or EV spread.
 or  - Special Sweeper
Calm Mind
Psychic
HP Ground
Energy Ball
I would go with Alakazam because it's stronger and faster. Froslass's Ghost typing helps, but makes it weak to Pursuit, and being an Ice type kinda gets her shunned. She does have some nice trick though, like Destiny Bond, but this Pokemon works better in the snow. As for Alakazam, give it Focus Blast so steel types and Dark types don't ruin your fun. Shadow Ball is to make sure ghost types don't ruin your fun. Psychic is his STAB move, so keep that. Calm Mind for boosts, but Charge Beam could be used instead, since it has a high chance of boosting as well. Energy Ball isn't too great, since grass gets resisted by many types, and what it does hit for SE isn't worth it; water - Charge Beam if you're afraid of them, ground - uh, idk, the only useful thing it hits, rock - Focus Blast takes care of this and many others.
Nature: Modest, Ability: your choice. Inner Focus guarantees no flinch. Synchronize isn't as common. EV spread: 252 SpA, 252 Spe, 6 SpD
 - Special Sweeper
Ice Beam
Surf
Shock Wave/Psychic
HP Fire
I would make it a defender, since you already have two special sweepers. Water Absorb is the better ability. Defensive nature. Leftovers for the item. It could become a potentially good Curser. Give it physical moves if you want to try that. It could be a Sleep Talker. That's a nice idea with Shock Wave. It allows you to switch in on water types and hit hard with an electric attack. HP Fire is...questionable. Fire type-coverage isn't worth it if you have Ice Beam and Surf.
Thanks in advance.
-Fizzles
ps can you also reccomend some items/natures/effort points?
theres no more school for 6 weeks and i have nothing to do.
The ones that I didn't do were the ones I'm not sure about/ didn't have time for.
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