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koipen
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:01 am Posts: 274
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Bushin, there's a trick called prediction, also known as Skill.
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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koipen wrote: Bushin, there's a trick called prediction, also known as Skill.
Koipen,I'm aware of that, actually that's one of my favorites...
If you see his team,you will know that there's thing called Scarf-Chomp ...
And the lack of a Wall / Steel pokémon is dangerous.
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Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:01 am |
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Pokemaniac
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:27 pm Posts: 920 Location: Canada
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Basically just felt like using a nice Spiritomb I caught. It's not for a team at all just something I felt like using.
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Calm-Pressure
129 HP 252 Def 129 Sp.Def
~Will-O-Wisp
~Protect
~Calm Mind
~Dark Pulse
So any suggestions?
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Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:46 pm |
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Rhiixon
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:52 am Posts: 73 Location: Avvie credit to IX.
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I need help with the stats of this team, and also it's up for rating:
Scizor @lefties (?)
Iron Head
X-scissor
Night slash
Swords dance
Flygon @ soft sand
Dragon pulse
earthquake
flamethrower
fly
Porygon-Z
Nasty Plot
Hyper beam
dark pulse
Psychic
Note: Nasty plot and hyper beam are a great way to take out blissey (download raises sp. atk)
Froslass @ lefties
Ice beam
Shadow ball
double team
hail
Note: I'm not sure if this is a good moveset x.x
Drifblim @ kasib berry
Shadow ball
fly
substitute
baton pass
Giratina @ focus sash
shadow force
protect
fly
aura sphere
note: total pressure abuser 
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Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:05 am |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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tpjerematic wrote: I have a UU team, that i have been thinking about for a while. Any help would be appreciated
 @ Life Orb
Adamant / Super Luck
EV's: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Moveset
Swords Dance
Night Slash
Psycho Cut
Will - o - Wisp / Thunder Wave
A direct pull of a smogon moveset for absol. Mostly because it has a impressive attack stat for an UU pokemon. And statusing can help with sweeping.
I suggest another attack instead of Will-o-Wisp/T-Wave,because Absol isn't Bulky or fast enough to use it well,i would use Stone Edge instead.
 @ Liechi Berry
Timid / Unburden
EV's: 40 HP / 218 SpA / 252 Spe
Moveset
Baton Pass
Substitute
Hypnosis
Shadow Ball / Will - o - Wisp / Thunder Wave
This guy can pass his massive substitutes on to Shedinja later on in the battle (with the whole 3 subs to activate the pinch berry to boost phys atk) Or do the same earier on in the battle with absol.
The last move slot is important. if i go with Shadow ball i will need a status move on absol. if i use a status move on Drifblim i can use X-Scissor on absol.
Use Shadow Ball on the last moveslot.
 @ Black Sludge
Careful / Sticky Hold
EV's: 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 SpD
Moveset
Curse
Poison Jab
Brick Break
Ice Punch
Pretty much a standard smogon curse Muk, only i removed the ghost attack as i already have enough to cover ghosts and phychics
You could use Shadow Sneak over Ice punch to compesate his low speed and to hurt psychics that would kill you,and because Ice Punch is illegal with Shadow sneak...
 @ Light Ball
Hasty / Static
EV's: 152 Atk / 104 SpA / 252 Spe
Moveset
Thunderbolt
Volt Tackle
Brick Break
Quick Attack
ZOMG PIKA-RAT!!!!! yes im going to use a pikachu, mostly for the fact that light ball effectivly gives pikachu base 110 Atk and 100 SpA, That coupled with the blistering (ok GOOD) speed makes for a "UU deoxys-A".
Yes Pikachu became a Power House with on DP,but you could try another moveset...
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power [Ice]
-Focus Punch
-Substitute
 @ Focus Sash
Adamant / Wonder Guard
EV's: 255 Atk / 255 Spe
Moveset
Shadow Sneak
Toxic
X-Scissor
Endure
Essentially this shedinja is at least a 2HKO, mabye even a 3HKO if i can get in an endure. This poke would go last, possibly after recieving drifblim's sub and berry boost.
You could switch Endure for Swords Dance.
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Calm / White Smoke
EV's: 252 HP / 68 Def / 188 SpD
Moveset
Iron Defence
Amnesia
Flame Thrower
Rapid Spin
A Tor-tank with a massive defence stat and after an amnesia a respectable Spec def stat too. Item and ev's are to help longetivity. And white smoke means the defence boost cannot be lost, (need clarification if haze does reset the stats though)
I suggest this set.
@ Leftovers
Relaxed/ White Smoke
EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 S.Def
Moveset
Explosion
Lava Plume
Stealth Rock
Rapid Spin
Torkoal Special Defense it's too low and he have a nasty weakness to water,ground and Rock so you might want to max his defense. Lava Plume for better burning chance,Stealth Rock is always useful and Explosion for taking Bliss... i mean Clefable down...
berserk_penguin wrote:
It's a double battle team,right?
Calm - Torrent - Leftovers
252 HP - 252 Sp.Def - 6 SPD
- Surf
- Ice-Beam
- Aqua Ring
- Protect
Additional Info: I've read Smogon University's strategy for building an effective special tank, but I just like aqua ring + protect combination a lot more than the rest + sleep talk combo, firstly because I just love "regen" type of moves in RPGs, and secondly because I feel safer with protect around so that I could block a few damaging physical attacks and also block my teammate's Earthquake... I know I'm missing out on rest's ability to heal status, and using protect might give opponents a chance to set up, but what else am I missing out on? Also, why is surf still so highly rated when it hits my teamate? Thanks in advance, but more questions coming...
Hmm...Sounds good.
Impish - Pressure - Leftovers
252 HP - 252 Def - 6 Spd
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split
- Thunder Punch
- Mean Look / Earthquake
Additional Info: Really can't decide on the last move...
use Earthquake as your last move.
Careful - Synchronize - Leftovers
252 HP - 92 Sp.Def - 164 Spd
- mean look
- yawn
- baton pass
- wish
Additional Info: Basically just what Smogon University listed, baton pass + wish to heal team mate, mean look + yawn to inflict sleep etc. Sounds like a solid tank + supporter.
Just a thing...you don't need a Baton Pass to heal teammates,batonpass is just to assure your next pokémon get the heal without taking an attack...
Modest - Snow Cloak - Leftovers
252 HP - 252 Sp.Att - 4 Spd
- Ice Beam / Blizzard
- Hidden Power (fighting??)
- Fake Tears / Toxic
- Wish / Protect / Substitute
Additional Info: Again, need help with move choices. Is Fake Tears / Toxic more compatible with my team (please justify a little bit so that i can understand, thanks)? Also, Wish is the move recommended in Smogon's site, but I've got Umbreon with Wish + Baton pass which can heal teamates, do I still need wish for Glaceon? If I choose to drop Wish and choose a defensive move, is Protect / Substitude generally more effective?
hmm... Toxic isn't very good on a pokémon as offensive as Glaceon, unless you're sing it with protect or substitute.if you use fake tears another attacking move would be better,shadow ball is a good one.
Naive - Flash Fire - Life Orb
228 Atk - 92 Sp.Att - 188 Spd
- Flare Blitz
- Overheat
- Hidden Power (grass??)
- Body Slam / Helping Hand
Additional Info: I changed the last move from their recommended Extremespeed / Dragon Pulse to Body Slam / Helping Hand. Never seen Helping Hand mentioned anywhere so is it a useless move? Also, why did they talk about choosing Grass or Electric Hidden Power? How do I "choose" or determine which one will come out?
Helping Hand is move for double battles,it raises the power of your partner's move.
Hidden power is a mive whose power and type are defined by the IVs of the pokémon.
If you can't get the right hidden power you could use both Extreme Speed and Dragon Pulse.
Lonely - Motor Drive - Expert Belt
252 Atk - 80 Sp.Att - 176 Spd
- Thunderbolt
- Fire Punch
- Cross Chop
- Earthquake
Additional Info: Just chose the sweeper-build from Smogon that seems most versitile.
Ice punch over Fire punch,so you cantake down dragons and other x4 weaks against Ice...and dbecause electric and Ice can hit almost everything with at least neutral.
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berserk_penguin
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:43 am Posts: 14
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Sorry for posting another team so quickly... but I've only just learnt about the tier thing so I've decided to get a BL double battle team instead of one with both OU and UU in it. This team would fight in both tier's metagame double battle though. Thanks in advance!!!
Calm - Torrent - Leftovers
252 HP - 150 Def - 108 S.Def
~ Hydro Pump
~ Ice-Beam
~ Aqua Ring
~ Protect
Note: I read that in double battles some EVs should be invested in both physical and special defense, but I don't know if it should be THAT even...
Sassy - Synchronize – Leftovers
252 HP - 200 Atk - 56 S.Def
~ Curse
~ Payback
~ Wish
~ Protect
Note: Is Mean Look only useful in single but not double battles? Same question regarding Baton Pass. Protect also allows Marowak to use Earthquake and self heal.
Adamant / Jolly - Lightning Rod - Thick Club
4 HP - 252 Atk - 252 Spd
~ Sword Dance
~ Earthquake
~ Rockslide
~ Substitute
Note: Teams up with Empoleon and Crobat to absorb Electric. Empoleon, Umbreon, and Crobat can also deal with Earthquake. Should I keep the Spd EVs or shift them to HP instead?
Timid - Flash Fire - Life Orb
40 HP - 252 S.Atk - 216 Spd
~ Nasty Plot
~ Fire Blast / Flamethrower
~ Dark Pulse
~ Will-O-Wisp
Note: Typical special sweeper.
Jolly - Inner Force – Leftovers
160 HP - 132 Atk - 216 Spd
~ Hypnosis
~ Taunt
~ U-Turn / Roast
~ Aerial Ace
Note: Crobat is taking up so many roles. Stop healing, buffs, de-buffs, status infliction, Stealth Rock etc. and also stop less agile sweepers with Hypnosis. But in terms of double battle, should I give up the Atk EVs and put it in HP to make it last a bit longer? Also, would Roast be more effective than U-Turn in doubles?
Bold - Own Tempo - Leftovers
252 HP - 129 Def - 129 S.Def
~ Slack Off
~ Counter
~ Grass Knot
~ Ice-Beam
Note: My team's surprise factor. Also, with this set-up can he take Marowak's Earthquake reasonably well?
FINALLY - Overall, what is my prospective team lacking and what should I be aware of?
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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Eevee wrote: Back again with another team,  and  are from my old team and have been already rated but the others are new and need some work. I'm not sure what natures need to be on which Pokemon I'm still very new to competitive battling so any help would be greatly accepted. Thank you again for your help and time.
 @wide lens (Timid)
-Fire Blast
-Energy Ball
-Hypnosis
-Nasty Plot
Good. For Evs, use Max Speed and Special Attack.
Surf
Psychic
rest
Shadow Ball
Calm Mind,Slack Off,Surf and one of those Psychic/Hidden Power Electric or Ice Beam.
and for nature use Bold and for EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SpA, and Leftovers as item.
Crunch
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Stealth Rock
Good. Use Focus Sash as item, Jolly nature,this EV spread 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe.
Thunder
Seismic Toss
??? (possibly surf, but  already has that covered)
???
Use this set.
@Leftovers
Nature:Hasty
EVs: 6 HP / 252 S.Atk / 252 Spe
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power Ice
-Focus Punch
-Substitute
Rest
Earthquake
???
???
@Leftovers
Nature:Careful
EVs:6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Thick Fat
-Body Slam
-Earthquake / Fire Punch / Crunch
-Curse
-Rest
 @ focus sash (Timid)
-Grass Knot
-Weather Ball
-Sleep Powder
-Sunny Day
Good.
Thanks for your time.
You're welcome.By the way...Some better choices since your last team. ^_^
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sasory674
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:05 am Posts: 30 Location: beside you,behind you, anywhere really
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I just beat the elite 4 maybe a week ago and now that im done fooling around with the xtra stuff I want to make a good team a team I was thinking of was
scizor
Item: leftovers
nature: lonely
moves
X-Scissor
Swords Dance
???
???
Lapras
Item: ???
nature: ???
moves
Perish song
whirlpool/mean look
Ice Beam/Brine
???
Flygon
Item: ???
nature: ???
moves
Dragon Claw
Draco meteor/earthquake
Substitute
Flamethrower
Snorlax
Item:???
nature:???
moves:
???
???
???
???
magmortar
Item:???
nature:???
moves:
psychic
sunny day
flamethrower
toxic
spiritomb
Item???
nature:???
moves
???
???
???
???
for the snorlax spiritomb and magmortar idk what I want for it but I kno I want a them on my team :]
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Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:57 am |
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Dam'n
Bug Catcher
Joined: Thu May 08, 2008 2:28 pm Posts: 5 Location: Brazil
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Please, i except any sugestions...
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Careful - 252 Def, 252 Sp.Def, 4 Hp
Pressure
MOVESET
Night Shade
Ice Punch
Will o' Wisp
Protect
 @ Leftovers
Bold - 252 Def, 252 Hp, 4 Sp.Def
Nature Cure
MOVESET
Softboiled
Stealth Rock
Toxic
Counter
 @ Leftovers
Jolly - 252 Spe, 252 Atk, 4 Hp
Intimidate
MOVESET
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Stone Edge
Taunt
 @ Leftovers
Adamant - 252 Spe, 252 Atk, 4 Hp
Sand Veil
MOVESET
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Sword Dance
Fire Fang
 @ Leftovers
Modest - 252 Spe, 252 Sp.Atk, 4 Hp
Levitate
MOVESET
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Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:23 pm |
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ophiuchus
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:23 pm Posts: 42
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Oh wow! I've only been gone for less than a week and people start bombarding psypokes with RTMs. Well, at least you're giving Bushin, Volke, Sapphirath and the others something to do.
Anyway, I just have a couple of questions for the raters.
I've bred my  about 3 times already and I still can't get its Atk and Spe IVs to 31. I know it's random but it's just the most frustrating thing in the whole pokemon game! I'll just continue on leveling it up and breeding it again but my questions are:
1) Will its IVs go to 31?
2) If yes, how soon will it get there?
I know this isn't your job as raters but I've no idea who else to turn to. Sorry for the hassel. Thanks again in advance.
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rumetz
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:07 pm Posts: 164 Location: nowhere. just don't look behind you
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This is just a solo moveset-
Machamp@choice band
adamant nature
no guard
-dynamic punch (main attack)
-cross chop (filler)
-stone edge (for flying)
-close combat (for walls)
252 atk/spd 4 Spdf
Strategy-
open up with dynamic punch if it's not psychic, flying, or something with monstrous defense , which will either leave them severely damaged and confused, or kill them.
open up with stone edge if it's a flier
flee if psychic comes out
use close combat if a wall/tank appears.
and another-
dusknoir@lum berry
calm nature
-toxic
-mean look
-rest
-protect
252 df/Spdf 4hp
And ophiuchus, there's a questions sticky in sinnoh region.
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Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:46 am |
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Rhiixon
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:52 am Posts: 73 Location: Avvie credit to IX.
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I'm sorry if I'm being a little impatient, but is anyone gonna rate mine?
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Registeel_Rocks
Gym Leader
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:33 pm Posts: 1578 Location: Wisconsin
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Rhiixon wrote: I'm sorry if I'm being a little impatient, but is anyone gonna rate mine?
I apologize, it appears our raters have other priorities to attend to at the moment. I promise you your team will be rated, but you may need to wait awhile, as it seems there's quite the back up of rate requests currently.
I'd rate some teams, but I'm probably the least qualified to rate.
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Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:10 pm |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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koipen wrote: BulkPower worked but was boring. I tried to make a better team with Allaround fast pokes. It's Idea is, that all these pokes aren't set-up fodder, but few of them can set-up. It still has some problems, but I don't know how tp fix them.
Finally it's your turn... lets give it a look...
Imporant note!i realize, that Tentacruel would be nearly must on this team. I don't know what to replace, so please help me with that.
The team at glance:
    
Viruxys-E (Deoxys-e) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 80 HP/252 Spd/176 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
Lead, setting up Stealth Rocks. A lead is maybe the most mportant poke in battle, because he gives you the start, whether it's a good or bad. This Deoxys is handy, because outspeeds nearly anything, and has the fastest Taunt in the game. Messes up BPass chains, makes Hypnosises useless, and is the main form of revenge killing. It can do plenty of damage if it hits SE.
I'm considering switching this to Dualscreen Deo, which I tried, and it workeed well, but after setting the screens, it would be just dead weight, which I don't like.
EVs are to outspeed and OHKO Jolly Scarf Chomp, and any other Garchomp with 4 Hp / 0 SpDef. This is also my only speedy pokemon which doesn't need set-up.
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Teamwork:
Set-ups Stealth Rocks, and acts as a revenge killer. Is also valuable to my otherwise slow team, (Other than Mence after DD, Cross after Salac or Gengar) because otherwise Motor Drive Electivire would kill me. It can also, if I use the screens do plenty of support by helping defensive side. The best lead after my testes.
Great. I don't have nothing to comment here. Besides the fact that a Gyro Ball WILL hurt.
Nice Lead.
Bug of the Hero (Heracross) (M) @ Salac Berry
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Stone Edge
- Close Combat
Not A Scarf/ Band bug, Huh? No. Swords Dance bug has the power -And more- of the Badbug, and speed -After Salac- of Scarrf ug. Jolly because if this would be Adamant,It end up being still slow after Scarf, losing to almost every Scarfer in the game. The idea of the set is t his: I switch as revnge killer to something that will switch, use Sub. If i think that he breaks the Sub, Iuse Sub, If I think he is slower and won't break the Sub in one hit, I SD. Then I Sub down to 1/4 of Hp, Salac and sweep activates. Stone edge and Close combat offers best coverage. This also can absorb any status bar Sleep, because I didn' use Sleep Talk set.
I switched Hp Iv to 30, so Salac will acivate on the third Sub. The EVs are simple. You would only need only 236 Spd EV:s to outspeed Modest Lucario, but any extra speed is needed to pokemon with such as slow speed as Hera.
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Teamwork:
Helps Sala sweep, and is able to take out all Weaviles without Aerial ace. Is also a good "Fake" Revengekiller. After a SD, this can sweep many pokes that would stop Physical rampage, such as Hippo who is 2HKOed by SD Close Combat. Offers great late-game sleep.
Old School Sub/Salac Hera! a little different from the standard,but effective.
Ufo warning! (Magnezone) @ Leftovers
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 172 HP/84 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Magnet Rise
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunderbolt
Part of Salamizone combo. This is edited version of my older Magnechomp combo, which makes the combo, that ensures, that any steeltype won't wall Mence. Magnet Rise is nice, as I can switch against something slow like hippo, Rise, Sub and Hp Ice him to the dead. Great trapper. ThunderBolt also offers my secondary Special bomg, along with Shadow Ball from Gengar, that ensures that unless you resist or are immune (Or Bliss), this wil take good chunk of your Health. Hp Ice covers what Thunderbolt does not.
The EVs are to outspeed no speed Skarm. Max Special attack is clear, and remaining are putted to Hp to make this little sturdier.
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Teamwork:
Disables DD Salas main counters: Steeltypes. This makes by that way, crucial part of the team. Almost anything bar Zong gets 2HKOed. At same time I can set-up MAgnet Rise to help countering Hippo.
Good.
Dragonaut (Salamence) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 120 HP/252 Atk/136 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
Main force of the team. When Magnezone has been countered Steels, this comes in, Intimidates and and Dragon Dances. After that this is nearly unstoppable. Dragon Claw crushes nearly everything, Stone edge does plenty of damage to fliers, exspecially Gyara. Earthquake crushes Grounded steels. I'm considering of switching Earthquake to Roost.
EVs outspeed Adamant Hera, and After DD Adamant CS Hera.
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Teamwork:
Main sweeper, helps taking out any enemy. Also the fastest poke of team afeter DD, who can actually OHKO something.
In my opinion,Roost won't help you as Earthquake.Because Magnezone can't do much to Metagross if it don't set up Magnet Rise.
Creepiness (Gengar) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Focus Blast
- Hypnosis
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
The special force of the team. STAB LO Shadow Ball similar to Zones ThunderBolt. Focus Blast offers unresisted coverage. Timid because otherwise this is way too slow. T-Bolt and Blast offers even more coverage. Hypnosis is incredily useful move, that helps to get Sala or Hera in. Not much to say here, as this is pretty standard...
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Teamwork:
Disables Sala counters, get's him free switch-in and maybe DD. Also harms any Physical wall badly with Shadow Ball.
Good. Wide Lens would be good for making the Focus Blast and Hypnosis more accurate...But Life Orb is good.
Colossus (Metagross) @ Life Orb
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP/244 Atk/12 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Pursuit
- Bullet Punch
The Scarf Gar counter of the team. ScarfGar can OHKO - 2HKO everything in my team, except this. This can Pursuit or BP him to death. Now you probably are confused by Life Orb. The thing is, after killing something, this gets too easily walled by Zone or anything. I can now Eq them easily down. Meteor MAsh is main attacking move, doing tons of damage to anything that won't resist it. Pursuit hits Fleeing Ghostes and Psychics. Not much to say here either.
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Teamwork:
Helps taking down Speedy Ghostes. Also good revenge killer if Deo is dead. Cans witch to almost anything physical bar SE attacks, and then strike back with LO STAB 403 Att Meteor Mash.
Not much to comment here.
Overall, this team works good for me. But as earlier said, Tentacruel would give this team some Bulk. I won't make threat list untill this is complete.
I'm not sure of what you could put out to get Tentacruel... So let's see what you can't take out...
Deoxys,Salamence and Magnezone are needed on my opinion... I would take out Metagross...
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Pokemaniac wrote: Basically just felt like using a nice Spiritomb I caught. It's not for a team at all just something I felt like using.
 @Leftovers
Calm-Pressure
129 HP 252 Def 129 Sp.Def
~Will-O-Wisp
~Protect
~Calm Mind
~Dark Pulse
So any suggestions?
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Volke
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:08 pm Posts: 451 Location: Suwanee, GA, USA
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Oh...my...god...there are so many...like weed in a garden...  I'll try to get to as many of them as I can. I've been busier, with school starting and trying to adjust back into it.
Rhiixon wrote: I need help with the stats of this team, and also it's up for rating:
Scizor @lefties (?)
Iron Head
X-scissor
Night slash
Swords dance
Depends on what your stance is with this guy; is it more offensive minded? Defensive? From the looks of it, looks like you want him for offense. There are lots of cool sets for Scizor, like Sub+Salac, or Agility sweeper. How fast do you intend to go with him?
Hm, if you want Swords Dance, then you can give it Life Orb. Leftovers work too, I guess. X-scissor and Night Slash don't go well together, since they cover about the same thing. Either go with Night Slash and Brick Break, or X-Scissor and Iron Head. Night Slash takes care of Psychic and Ghost types, while Brick Break hits 5 types for SE damage, and takes care of Dark types, who resist Night Slash. X-Scissor hits Psychic and Dark types (along with 1 or 2 more types), but is resisted by Ghosts, so Iron Head is there for them.
As for the last slot, I highly recommend Quick Attack, cuz if you use SD, then your EVs will have to be more bulky for it to work, which means less speed (he's already slow as it is). If you use Quick Attack, then give it the Technician ability, rather than Swarm. Technician Quick Attack is actually pretty powerful (40 * 1.5 (Tech) * 2 (SD) = 120 BP). If you go with Technician, and you want to use Iron Head, you could drop it for Metal Claw instead. Its base power is 112 after Technician and STAB, and it has a nice 10% chance (kinda small) of boosting attack. Iron Head is slightly more powerful, but its 30% flinch is kinda useless, since you'll be slower more often than not (well, maybe if you went against a tank or a wall).
So you'll have a Scizor looking something like this:
@ Life Orb
Adamant, Technician
EV spread: 232 HP / 252 Atk / 24 Def
Swords Dance
Quick Attack
X-Scissor/Night Slash
Metal Claw/Brick Break
Of course, you could use Aerial Ace with Technician and Quick Attack, and it murders Heracross, but other than that it doesn't offer much coverage. Roost works too, but keep Quick Attack if you want it; instead, drop either X-Scissor or Metal Claw. Now that I think about it, Pursuit may be handier than Night Slash, giving a "No escape" situation. Imo, works better on a Choice set, since you don't have to set up, but it works great here too.
As for the EV spread, I pulled it off Smogon. High attack for bigger punch, and high HP, cuz he needs time to set up, and after setup, he's still slow, so that's why there's a bunch of HP EVs there.
This guy works best as a late-game sweeper.
Flygon @ soft sand
Dragon pulse
earthquake
flamethrower
fly
Whoa, no! Fly usually isn't a good move, cuz it takes a turn to execute. Sure you may have dodged an attack, but they can prepare for the in-coming hit very easily. Soft Sand and other items of the same nature are generally bad choices, because it boosts only one stat and the boost is very minimal (10%). I'm guessing you want a mixed sweeper with this guy? Draco Meteor *could* be used over Dragon Pulse if you want. It's all based on preference. You could use Fire Punch instead of Flamethrower if you want. Stone Edge works in the last slot. Or roost. As for the item, Life Orb would work best. Obviously if you want to use a Choice item, then the moveset will have to change a bit.
I'm not very good with EV spreads...around 216 EVs in speed, and either hasty, naive, or jolly. Split the rest into attack and special attack. You might want to make it more physical, since you have limited EVs and Flygon's stats are a tad miniscule, compared to the other dragons. If you do, give it Dragon Claw over pulse. Jolly is better on physical sets. You'll probably want to switch Flamethrower for Fire Punch or Fire Blast. Fire Blast hits Skarmory harder, but hits everything else for less.
Porygon-Z
Nasty Plot
Hyper beam
dark pulse
Psychic
Note: Nasty plot and hyper beam are a great way to take out blissey (download raises sp. atk)
Use adaptability instead; the boost is bigger, and Download's boost is only 1. good when Porygon-Z switches in 2. if their special defense is weaker. Blissey has better special defense, so Download is going to boost attack, the stat that Porygon doesn't use. Obviously Modest or Timid is the best nature. I'm surprised you didn't mention Tri-Attack. That should be your main move, rather than Psychic. Hidden Power Fighting or Ice Beam could work instead of Hyper Beam. HP Fighting covers the other things that resist Tri-Attack, while Ice Beam is for dragons and whatnot. Your pick. True, Hyper Beam is deadly against many things, including Blissey, but let me remind you the potential consequences: once they're knocked out, you're a sitting duck; they could easily revenge kill you. By all means, use it, but use it at your own risk.
6 HP/ 252 SpA/ 252 Spe, and for the item, Life Orb/Leftovers/Focus Sash (he's frail) works.
Froslass @ lefties
Ice beam
Shadow ball
double team
hail
Note: I'm not sure if this is a good moveset x.x
Max speed and special attack. 6 EVs into HP. She's extremely frail, so give her a Timid nature as well. Leftovers/Focus Sash/Life Orb works well. Give her Thunderbolt instead of double team, cuz double team is banned from most battles, and T-Bolt+Ice Beam gives the boltbeam combination, which is very useful. As for the last slot, HP Fighting could work, or you could give it Destiny Bond, since correct HPs are hard to get, and Froslass has enough speed to pull off Destiny Bond well. Hail is not a good idea, cuz it wastes a turn, and it doesn't help your other teammates. You could give Froslass a more supporting role, giving her Thunder Wave or Confuse Ray or Spikes. The EV spread would be the same as before.
I believe the FS Gengar is superior to this Froslass's role. Go look it up on Smogon, and you'll see what I mean.
Drifblim @ kasib berry
Shadow ball
fly
substitute
baton pass
Instead of fly, give it either Hypnosis/Calm Mind/Stock Pile. IMO, Hypnosis works best, but the others could prove useful, being able to BP to Porygon-Z or Froslass. Leftovers over Kasib berry, unless you're desperately afraid of it. Yache Berry is actually more worthwhile, since Ice Beam is very common (cuz of the dragons).
Use a Calm nature and this spread: 80 HP / 252 SpD / 176 Spe. Atermath is obviously the better ability. Would be cool if you BP Unburden's speed boost, but you can't.
Giratina @ focus sash
shadow force
protect
fly
aura sphere
note: total pressure abuser
What's up with you and 2 turn moves? lol Anyway, first of all, Giratina is an uber, so most people won't allow you to use it. Secondly, you don't need Focus Sash on him; Giratina is one of the best walls in the game, if not THE best.
Perhaps a Dusknoir instead? Well, maybe not, since half of your team would be weak against it. Find some other wall/tank, like Forretress or Bronzong. Your team overall is pretty frail, with Drifblim being the only defense, but it's a BPer, so it can't wall much. I would suggest a really bulky Pokemon in the last slot; maybe a Milotic (more of a tank, and not THAT durable) or, dare I say it, Blissey. If you plan to use this team, you'll probably want Blissey, cuz she alone can wall very well. Fight fast and hard, and be careful against Choice Scarfed Pokemon. You might want to start with Froslass, and have it take out one or two Pokemon, then Destiny Bond when it's about to die. That way, you take out about half of their team. Then go in with Drifblim and sub up and pass it to Porygon-Z for more havoc. Blah blah blah Flygon blah blah blah Blissey. Scizor will sweep the rest at the end. That's the gist of it.
Dam'n wrote: Please, i except any sugestions...
 @ Leftovers
Careful - 252 Def, 252 Sp.Def, 4 Hp
Pressure
MOVESET
Night Shade
Ice Punch
Will o' Wisp
Protect
Max HP, cuz it's abysmally low. Then either split the remaining into the other defenses, or dump it into a particular stat. Use the nature that best fits its primary choice of walling; Impish if you want defense, otherwise stick with careful. Pain Split is awesome, so use it instead of Protect. Protect doesn't help Dusknoir much. Definitely keep Will-O-Wisp. Shadow Sneak is an option instead of Ice Punch, so you could steal a KO. Looks good overall.
 @ Leftovers
Bold - 252 Def, 252 Hp, 4 Sp.Def
Nature Cure
MOVESET
Softboiled
Stealth Rock
Toxic
Counter
You could give it T-Wave/Seismic Toss instead of Toxic. Looks good overall.
 @ Leftovers
Jolly - 252 Spe, 252 Atk, 4 Hp
Intimidate
MOVESET
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Stone Edge
Taunt
This guy...isn't fast enough to take full advantage of Jolly and max speed so stick with Adamant. Besides, you have Dragon Dance to make up for the speed. Looks good, although if this guy is to be played more as a bulkydos role, then give it this spread: 216 HP / 16 Atk / 132 Def / 144. Earthquake is the superior option over Stone Edge, cuz it hits more things - more common things. Ice Fang works too. Up to you though. Your spread is fine if you want pure speed and raw power.
 @ Leftovers
Adamant - 252 Spe, 252 Atk, 4 Hp
Sand Veil
MOVESET
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Sword Dance
Fire Fang
Yeah, standard. Jolly might actually be better, so it could outspeed other things. Sweepers need all the speed they can get. Adamant is fine though. You'll find Yache Berry or Life Orb more useful on this guy.
 @ Leftovers
Modest - 252 Spe, 252 Sp.Atk, 4 Hp
Levitate
MOVESET
There are so many sets for this guy, so go to Smogon and pick one, or think up one of your own. Timid is not only more popular, but better, cuz like I said before, sweepers need all the speed they can get. It applies here more, because Gengar is extremely frail. As for the item, Life Orb works. Focus Sash works too, but works better on specific sets. Personally, I like Wide Lens, because it makes Focus Blast and Hypnosis more accurate.
ophiuchus wrote: Oh wow! I've only been gone for less than a week and people start bombarding psypokes with RTMs. Well, at least you're giving Bushin, Volke, Sapphirath and the others something to do.
Anyway, I just have a couple of questions for the raters.
I've bred my  about 3 times already and I still can't get its Atk and Spe IVs to 31. I know it's random but it's just the most frustrating thing in the whole pokemon game! I'll just continue on leveling it up and breeding it again but my questions are:
1) Will its IVs go to 31?
2) If yes, how soon will it get there?
I know this isn't your job as raters but I've no idea who else to turn to. Sorry for the hassel. Thanks again in advance.
Lol, 3 time? It's gonna take more than that. Even longer if you want all of the stats to be respectable. If it's Beldum we're talking about, you shouldn't need to level it up, seing how it doesn't learn any egg moves (or any moves as a matter of fact, besides take down).
1. Yes, it will be 31, but it's more of random luck.
2. You can get the correct stats to 31 faster if the parents have 31 IVs in that stat. It's like passing down genes, but like genes, they are a bit random. It's a random number generator, so you're gonna have to be patient and diligent. It's like breeding race horses, so breed, get a better one, breed with the better one, etc. 3 stats are selected from both parents, I think. You can find more info on Psypoke's data base.
Man, this took forever.  I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of other teams I missed. Oh well, maybe later. I gotta finish my homework now (should've been done yesterday  ).
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Wilesthegreat
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:51 am Posts: 105
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Ok how about this
Tyranitar@Leftovers
Adamant / Jolly
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
~ Dragon Dance
~ Crunch
~ Earthquake
~ Stone Edge
Garchomp@Life Orb
Jolly / Adamant
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
~ Swords Dance
~ Earthquake
~ Dragon Claw
~ Fire Fang
Empoleon@Leftovers
Calm / Modest
252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam
~ Grass Knot
~ Roar
Swampert@Leftovers
Relaxed
240 HP / 216 Def / 52 SpA
~ Earthquake
~ Ice Beam
~ Surf
~ Stealth Rock
Skarmory@Chesto Berry
Sturdy
Impish
252 HP / 96 Atk / 156 Def / 4 Spe
~ Drill Peck
~ Rest
~ Spikes
~ Roar
Blissey@Leftovers
Natural Cure
Calm
252 Def / 40 SpA / 216 SpD
~ Aromatherapy
~ Ice Beam
~ Toxic
~ Softboiled
Breloom@Toxic Orb
Poison Heal
Adamant
44 HP / 252 Atk / 212 Spe
~ Substitute
~ Leech Seed
~ Focus Punch
~ Spore
Gliscor@Leftovers
Sand Veil
Impish
252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
~ Earthquake
~ Roost
~ Rock Polish
~ Baton Pass
(sets up Breloom)
Heatran@Choice Specs
Bold
40 HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe
~ Flamethrower
~ Earth Power
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Explosion
I know theres nine but i don't know which ones i should ditch or what i should pickup so help please! Maybe Claydol for spinning or Magnezone for special sweeping?
p.s. Tyranitar, Swampert, and Skarmory make a very solid battle tower team
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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berserk_penguin wrote: Sorry for posting another team so quickly... but I've only just learnt about the tier thing so I've decided to get a BL double battle team instead of one with both OU and UU in it. This team would fight in both tier's metagame double battle though. Thanks in advance!!!
Calm - Torrent - Leftovers
252 HP - 150 Def - 108 S.Def
~ Hydro Pump
~ Ice-Beam
~ Aqua Ring
~ Protect
Note: I read that in double battles some EVs should be invested in both physical and special defense, but I don't know if it should be THAT even...
Hmm...Sounds good.
Sassy - Synchronize – Leftovers
252 HP - 200 Atk - 56 S.Def
~ Curse
~ Payback
~ Wish
~ Protect
Note: Is Mean Look only useful in single but not double battles? Same question regarding Baton Pass. Protect also allows Marowak to use Earthquake and self heal.
I'm not sure if Umbreon is really that good on double battles because he's too slow. And having 2 sweepers aiming at you while you're setting up isn't the best you would want for your Umbreon... But putting that aside,this one sounds good too.
Adamant / Jolly - Lightning Rod - Thick Club
4 HP - 252 Atk - 252 Spd
~ Sword Dance
~ Earthquake
~ Rockslide
~ Substitute
Note: Teams up with Empoleon and Crobat to absorb Electric. Empoleon, Umbreon, and Crobat can also deal with Earthquake. Should I keep the Spd EVs or shift them to HP instead?
Marowak is powerful Hard Striker... but not trully a sweeper because he's handicaped by his 45 base speed. You might want to put some paralysis or Tail Wind Support on your team so he can be a true sweeper. About the Moveset, I would use Fire Punch or Thunder Punch (or even Aerial Ace if you don't have pokémon Emerald) over Substitute...
Timid - Flash Fire - Life Orb
40 HP - 252 S.Atk - 216 Spd
~ Nasty Plot
~ Fire Blast / Flamethrower
~ Dark Pulse
~ Will-O-Wisp
Note: Typical special sweeper.
I don't think he's that useful on double battles,but you never know until you try...
Jolly - Inner Force – Leftovers
160 HP - 132 Atk - 216 Spd
~ Hypnosis
~ Taunt
~ U-Turn / Roast
~ Aerial Ace
Note: Crobat is taking up so many roles. Stop healing, buffs, de-buffs, status infliction, Stealth Rock etc. and also stop less agile sweepers with Hypnosis. But in terms of double battle, should I give up the Atk EVs and put it in HP to make it last a bit longer? Also, would Roast be more effective than U-Turn in doubles?
Sounds good... and boosting his Hp is a good idea,since he gonna face two foes at once...
I suggest using Roost.
Bold - Own Tempo - Leftovers
252 HP - 129 Def - 129 S.Def
~ Slack Off
~ Counter
~ Grass Knot
~ Ice-Beam
Note: My team's surprise factor. Also, with this set-up can he take Marowak's Earthquake reasonably well?
Looks Bulky enough. But most of the time he will be dead before Counter can do it's job...just be careful about that.
FINALLY - Overall, what is my prospective team lacking and what should I be aware of?
The first thing i noted was the lack of a Powerful and Fast sweeper like Gengar,Weavile,Garchomp,Salamence,Lucario and such. Great Fighting Type and Electric Type weakness...
and your teamwork have some issues, like if your 2 last pokémon are houndoom and marowak...
There's a guide about double battles here...
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ophiuchus
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:23 pm Posts: 42
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Volke wrote: ophiuchus wrote: Oh wow! I've only been gone for less than a week and people start bombarding psypokes with RTMs. Well, at least you're giving Bushin, Volke, Sapphirath and the others something to do.
Anyway, I just have a couple of questions for the raters.
I've bred my about 3 times already and I still can't get its Atk and Spe IVs to 31. I know it's random but it's just the most frustrating thing in the whole pokemon game! I'll just continue on leveling it up and breeding it again but my questions are:
1) Will its IVs go to 31?
2) If yes, how soon will it get there?
I know this isn't your job as raters but I've no idea who else to turn to. Sorry for the hassel. Thanks again in advance.
Lol, 3 time? It's gonna take more than that. Even longer if you want all of the stats to be respectable. If it's Beldum we're talking about, you shouldn't need to level it up, seing how it doesn't learn any egg moves (or any moves as a matter of fact, besides take down).
1. Yes, it will be 31, but it's more of random luck.
2. You can get the correct stats to 31 faster if the parents have 31 IVs in that stat. It's like passing down genes, but like genes, they are a bit random. It's a random number generator, so you're gonna have to be patient and diligent. It's like breeding race horses, so breed, get a better one, breed with the better one, etc. 3 stats are selected from both parents, I think. You can find more info on Psypoke's data base
I understand most of what you said. My question now is: since the pokemon that comes out of  's egg is  , and you said that if it's beldum we are talking about, I shoudn't need to level it up; should I just skip the leveling up of  ->  ->  and just keep on making eggs using beldum so it can speed up the 31 EVs that I want?
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Volke
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:08 pm Posts: 451 Location: Suwanee, GA, USA
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ophiuchus wrote: I understand most of what you said. My question now is: since the pokemon that comes out of  's egg is  , and you said that if it's beldum we are talking about, I shoudn't need to level it up; should I just skip the leveling up of  ->  ->  and just keep on making eggs using beldum so it can speed up the 31 EVs that I want?
You mean IVs, right? Yeah, that's right; you don't need it to evolve to breed it, unless it's a baby Pokemon. Beldum has one move at birth, so it's not like it can learn egg moves, or even moves that it learns in its later evolutions, so there is absolutely no point to evolving Beldum if you're using them to IV breed. It won't necessarily increase chances of getting 31 IVs, but it certainly is a big waste of time if you level it up before you breed.
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empoleon99
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:40 am Posts: 271 Location: NO IDEA!!!!!
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can someone plz rate my team because this is the third or fourth time i have had to do this and i would like to know how good and/or bad it is and i will take constructed critism,
i'm not too sure on my team but i would like to have it rated (by the way i dont know what EV's
are really so i wont do them) so here goes:
@leftovers
Sassy-torrent
~surf
~earthquake
~avalanche/ drill peck
~flash cannon/ thunder
@focus band
Careful-blaze
~blaze kick
~sky uppercut
~brick break
~overheat
@lum berry
Modest-intimidate
~swagger
~discharge
~thunder fang
~crunch
@miracle seed/persim berry
Quiet-natural cure
~petal dance
~synthesis
~toxic
~grass knot
@scope lens
Mild-sand veil
~dragon rush
~dig (trying to get EQ)
~aerial ace
~crunch
@sitrus berry
Mild-intimidate
~aerial ace
~fly (i know, but its mainly for travel)
~close combat
~brave bird
so thats my team what do you think????
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Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:34 pm |
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Max_LKC
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:54 am Posts: 81 Location: Malaysia
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I want to ask how much precentage of pwr does scarf item increase?
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Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:16 am |
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koipen
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:01 am Posts: 274
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Scarf increases speed by 1.5x, but allows to use only the same move untill switched out.
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Max_LKC
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:54 am Posts: 81 Location: Malaysia
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koipen wrote: Scarf increases speed by 1.5x, but allows to use only the same move untill switched out.
so what about other choice items? Do they also increase 1.5x??
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Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:57 am |
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Jeneus
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:59 pm Posts: 173
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Max_LKC wrote: koipen wrote: Scarf increases speed by 1.5x, but allows to use only the same move untill switched out.
so what about other choice items? Do they also increase 1.5x??
Coice Band= x1.5 Attack. Less than a Swords Dance. Not worth it because you can only use 1 attack. It is worth it, though when you have a poke that can't learn a certain stat modifier.
Coice Band= x1.5 Special Attack. Less than a Tail Glow. Not worth it because you can only use 1 attack. It is worth it, though when you have a poke that can't learn a certain stat modifier.
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ophiuchus
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:23 pm Posts: 42
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Max_LKC wrote: so what about other choice items? Do they also increase 1.5x??
koipen wrote: Scarf increases speed by 1.5x, but allows to use only the same move untill switched out.
so what about other choice items? Do they also increase 1.5x??
Yes they do. All Choice items give a boost of 1.5x. Specific Choice items increase specific stats. Choice Band increases you Attack stat by 1.5x. Choice Scarf increases your speed by 1.5x. Etc.
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