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Bulbaking
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:43 pm Posts: 2
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A little video I made: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=I6Kl1jzlazw
Obviously it is very tongue in cheek but I like it and I hope you do too. Thanks for giving your time to watch it!
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Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:46 pm |
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MasonTheChef
Pokemon Master
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:02 am Posts: 1577 Location: Michigan
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I lol'd
And that is why I gave up caring about the tiers of pokemon, and rather play with the ones I find interesting.
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Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:36 pm |
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Bulbaking
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:43 pm Posts: 2
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lol thanks that means a lot!
Yeah I think this Chomp ban wont last long, Smogon has never taken such a hard hit to its credibility before.
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Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:48 am |
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Sav
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:31 am Posts: 86 Location: England
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That is brilliant, I never liked Garchomp, but I did feel bumping him up to Uber was unnecessary
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Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:09 pm |
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exegutor_ownage
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:54 pm Posts: 63
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garchomp doesnt quite belong in ubers but hes prettty close
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Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:31 pm |
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Registeel_Rocks
Gym Leader
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:33 pm Posts: 1578 Location: Wisconsin
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The following message isn't directed at anyone in particular, but to everyone as a whole who complain/whine/moan about Garchomp being moved to ubers:
Bawwwwwwwww
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Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:32 pm |
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exegutor_ownage
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:54 pm Posts: 63
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Registeel_Rocks wrote: The following message isn't directed at anyone in particular, but to everyone as a whole who complain/whine/moan about Garchomp being moved to ubers:
Bawwwwwwwww
lol it doesnt bother me i dont use a garchomp anyways i just enjoyed killing them with my lvl 1 ratata
warning the following is extremly off topic:
anyone every wonder where they came up with the name smogon...i mean seriously what a stupid name rofl
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Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:51 pm |
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koipen
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:01 am Posts: 274
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Smogon is Koffing in German. In their logo they have Koffing. Any sense to you?
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Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:23 am |
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Pokemaniac
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:27 pm Posts: 920 Location: Canada
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Registeel_Rocks wrote: The following message isn't directed at anyone in particular, but to everyone as a whole who complain/whine/moan about Garchomp being moved to ubers:
Bawwwwwwwww
I thought you didn't care about Competitive Battling. Besides not everyone agrees with Garchomp being bumped to Ubers tier anyways.
Honestly I stop caring about what Smogon thought when they moved Garchomp to ubers and not Deoxys-E.
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Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:07 pm |
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Registeel_Rocks
Gym Leader
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:33 pm Posts: 1578 Location: Wisconsin
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Pokemaniac wrote: I thought you didn't care about Competitive Battling.
I didn't see anything that implied I did care. All I see is me crudely mocking the competitive players who get so upset about changes like this to their precious metagame.
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Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:24 pm |
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sanjay120
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:43 pm Posts: 117
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I'm a competitive battler, and I loved the bump. I was sick of Garchomp and the arguments for Uberfying it made sense, so yeah.
Nice video.
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Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:42 pm |
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Boingo
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:43 am Posts: 30
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Smogon aside, that flash just wasn't funny.
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:56 am |
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Jeneus
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:59 pm Posts: 173
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Meh, I don't even listen to smogon. I can make great "UU-BL" teams that can crumble people's OU teams. *strategy*
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Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:09 am |
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Kurusu Lapras
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:38 am Posts: 86 Location: I am inside your soul. It's actually really comfortable in here.
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I'm amazed this Garchomp thing went this far. Garchomp shouldn't be an uber. An uber's stronger than Garchomp would ever hope to be.
Every second of this vid was true, which is why it's so funny. Except the part about the Nazis. That's just wrong. 
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Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:02 pm |
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Patchy
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:17 am Posts: 1018
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...Im guessing smogon's reason was because it was pointless to have everyone either using a Garchomp or needing a Counter. I agree that its too weak for Uber, but its far too good for OU.
Nobody said Smogon was the boss of everyone's teams, its their opinion and people follow it.
And the gay people thing and Nazi things just were not funny. And Smogon doesn't care for Serebii noobs, I think they'd go on other things too.
Just my thoughts. :/
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Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:12 am |
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omgocd
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:37 pm Posts: 105 Location: BRIAN FELLOW'S SAFARI PLANET
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ya garchomp is pretty much NU now, its really good in standards, but sucks in uber. and deoxys speed is basically garbage now that its uber. However, I do find Smogon extremely helpful when trying to make a team. I don't always follow they're movesets exactly, but they have some good ideas.
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Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:25 am |
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Cactuar
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:08 pm Posts: 636 Location: Getting Jirachi off wi-fi...100 times
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Garchomp=dirt vs ubers...
It's okay...
It will get shredded, and smogon is messed up. Great vid... no calling me a hippocrit(did I spell that right?)
I could kill garchomp with my Grumpig.
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:04 pm |
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Nida
Ace Trainer
Joined: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:36 am Posts: 302 Location: Upstate New York
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I agree that Smogon has become a repository of egomaniacs. However, they're dedicated egomaniacs, and there's a system to ensure at least a modicum of observation in a test environment under both controlled and uncontrolled conditions to back up decisions like the Garchomp ban. Ultimately, the only issues affected by Smogon decisions are those related to the Shoddy tournament tiers. Those who choose to follow Smogon/Shoddy tiers and rules - and often people pick and choose which rules and tier lists they'll follow anyway - usually do so because they make sense in the context in which those people want to play, not because they're directed from on high by the lords of Pokemon. There's a reason that a lot of the best minds on Psypoke use terms and reasoning spawned on Smogon. Hell, how many people here have accounts there, too?
I support the Garchomp ban. Just not necessarily for all the same reasons the Smogon/Shoddy crew chose to ban it. Ultimately, if the metagame shifts enough to warrant it, I have every belief that Garchomp will drop back to OU. I don't usually like to  at those who want to raise issues counter to the mainstream voice, but the complaints about this ban sound a little butthurt to me. :/
And while I can tell there was definite work put into the video, it frankly required too much investment of my time and energy - and too much predisposition against Smogon - for me to care to watch it in its entirety. You're preaching to the choir with that one; the congregation already went back to their regularly scheduled browsing.
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:21 pm |
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Volke
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:08 pm Posts: 451 Location: Suwanee, GA, USA
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Cactuar wrote: Garchomp=dirt vs ubers...
It's okay...
It will get shredded, and smogon is messed up. Great vid... no calling me a hippocrit(did I spell that right?)
I could kill garchomp with my Grumpig.
Lol, Cactuar, what do you know? Last I checked you don't even EV train. You're right about Garchomp getting killed in ubers, but the Uber tier wasn't originally made to be a tier of its own; it's a ban list for standard to take away overpowering and overcentralizing Pokemon. Yes, it will get shredded (it might have a chance...maybe). No, Smogon is not messed up; they know what they're talking about because they do extensive testing. Unless you were being sarcastic, Grumpig could never stand up to Garchomp (even though it is cute).
My stance on the matter? It was a bit overcentralizing (forcing you to have an ice beamer -- even that wasn't enough, you basically lose 2 pokes), but I don't really care either way. It might come down eventually. You never know...
Nida wrote: I agree that Smogon has become a repository of egomaniacs. However, they're dedicated egomaniacs, and there's a system to ensure at least a modicum of observation in a test environment under both controlled and uncontrolled conditions to back up decisions like the Garchomp ban. Ultimately, the only issues affected by Smogon decisions are those related to the Shoddy tournament tiers. Those who choose to follow Smogon/Shoddy tiers and rules - and often people pick and choose which rules and tier lists they'll follow anyway - usually do so because they make sense in the context in which those people want to play, not because they're directed from on high by the lords of Pokemon. There's a reason that a lot of the best minds on Psypoke use terms and reasoning spawned on Smogon. Hell, how many people here have accounts there, too?
I support the Garchomp ban. Just not necessarily for all the same reasons the Smogon/Shoddy crew chose to ban it. Ultimately, if the metagame shifts enough to warrant it, I have every belief that Garchomp will drop back to OU. I don't usually like to  at those who want to raise issues counter to the mainstream voice, but the complaints about this ban sound a little butthurt to me. :/
And while I can tell there was definite work put into the video, it frankly required too much investment of my time and energy - and too much predisposition against Smogon - for me to care to watch it in its entirety. You're preaching to the choir with that one; the congregation already went back to their regularly scheduled browsing. Win.
All this aside though, I found the video entertaining. SEREBII....NOOBS!! 
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Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:26 am |
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Registeel_Rocks
Gym Leader
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:33 pm Posts: 1578 Location: Wisconsin
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Brilliant stuff there, Nida. You should post more in Battle Tower...posts like yours might start making this forum section seem more bearable desirable to post in.
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Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:53 pm |
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ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD
Joined: Mon May 12, 2008 5:38 am Posts: 149 Location: failworld
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In all due respect, that was one of the most boring things I've ever watched >.> It took WAAAAY too long to get to the point.
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Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:20 am |
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Wilesthegreat
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:51 am Posts: 105
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Smogon is a fan run site and if the majority of people say its uber, its uber and stop complaining and making whiny malicious videos.
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Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:52 pm |
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Titan of Lightning
Ace Trainer
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:34 pm Posts: 485 Location: Wow, this account is really embarrassing
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Paris Hilton is certainly not fully evolved.
Anyway, Garchomps were used way too much, and it was like every team had to have one, and they were probably using it for a reason: because it had so many pros and so few cons. I agreed pretty much that Garchomp is an Uber. Goodbye Garchomp..have fun hanging with Wobbufet.
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Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:43 pm |
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MissingNo_Is_My_Friend
Ace Trainer
Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:17 am Posts: 360 Location: Somewhere between Life and Afterlife
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So...
According to this video...
Nazis are so powerful that they are banned from Pokemon tournaments?
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Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:37 am |
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Titan of Lightning
Ace Trainer
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:34 pm Posts: 485 Location: Wow, this account is really embarrassing
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According to this video the person who stated that was stupid, as said by the Smogon Dude with the Hat.
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Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:44 am |
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