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I just read that mind reader does not affect one hit knock out moves. Is this true, and if so what was the reason for the alteration of this move?


Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:06 pm
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It does, A popular set with Articuno is Mind reader+sheer cold. I haven't heard of it changing in platinum or anything either.


Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:10 pm
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I've heard of that set to but I just read something in the techdex that contradicts it.


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Ah, that's for hitting thru protect/detect. for instance Thunder has 70% acc. but after mind reader/lock on it will hit through protect 30% of the time, Fire blast 15% Icy wind 5% etc. OHKO moves don't apply to this as their blocked by protect fully.


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Well it's a shame that OHKO moves are banned, even for their terrible inaccuracy or the need to use a turn before to guarantee a hit...but that means it takes 2 turns to make a OHKO, therefore in my opinion a 2HKO.

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Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:25 am
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Titan of Lightning wrote:
Well it's a shame that OHKO moves are banned, even for their terrible inaccuracy or the need to use a turn before to guarantee a hit...but that means it takes 2 turns to make a OHKO, therefore in my opinion a 2HKO.

It turns battles into a test of luck.

1. People use Mind Reader, their opponent will likely switch to avoid the Mind Reader, and the OHKO is back to 30% accuracy.

2. Players don't use Mind Reader, and there is a 30% chance of success.

Either way, it's that 30% that can make the difference between a win and a lose - which depends on luck.

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