sorry for this and i know not all of you agree with this but REALLY!? I look at the new evolutions for sinnoh of pokemon like Nosepass into Probopass and Aipom into Ambipom and Magneton into Magnizone and ect ect ect and i am thinking 'what the heck is with these designs?? they are way overthought!! i know its my personal opinion but can some people help me with this and give me some ideas on why you think they might of overthought this?

Yeah, they maybe wanted a radical change from prevoluiton-evolution. They have over-complicated those third evolutions. Thats why im partly dreading fifth gen...

<--This =/= the product of long, hard thought. It's a bigger Nosepass with pubic hair; that's all there is to it. is also just a bigger Aipom with an extra tail. Not much to that either. I will give you though; he does seem like he's a bit complicated, but they came up with an awesome Pokemon who you must admit looks kinda BA.

Yeah...it's more like was a bad decision choice for it's final design rather then the designer just being lazy...& I agree, is an huge insult to the pokemon known as ...

I quite like Ambipom's look and Magnazone is well thought but Probopass looks to complicated

How in the world is PROBOPASS too complicated? He gets a mustache, and ears! That's all!

Anyway, I thought that some of the other new evos, like and ; were pretty cool in regards of design. However, could use some work.

I personally love Ambipom, and most of the new evos. I have always hated Nosepass, and so too, do I hate Probopass. And I think Tangrowth was just meant to be an ugly pos...

I like most of the new evolutions, though I'm not fond of Probopass.

Alright, that's it. WHAT'S WITH ALL THE GALLADE HATE?!!?

Well, I realize that, but it's starting to get to me that everyone else on this forum apart from me thinks that Gallade is essentially, a piece of ****.

Am I really the only person on this entire forum who at least LIKES him?

I guess I think they just like having as many evolutions as possible. It seems that now having 3 in the evolution family is becoming the norm as opposed to kinda the exception. I think they should focus on coming up with new pokemon as opposed to coming up with new evolutions for existing pokemon.

I think most of the new evolutions are great. The only ones I have a problem with are Electavire (spelling?) and Magmortar, for being largely unnecessary and ugly,( I mean, fire is a pretty poor type due to its weaknesses, so I can understand the latter to a certain extent; however, Game Freak really could have just given Electabuzz a new ability, instead of a whole new evolution!) and Tangrowth to a lesser extent because... well, just because. Still, I'd rather get rid of Purugly and Kricketune than the new evolutions, most of whom, in my opinion, are not too over-thought, but fit in well with the original family.

Also, I must say, I too like Gallade, although unfortunately, I can't fully justify putting him in a team purely because of the lacking speed stat.

I don't dislike any of the new Pokémon, I just feel that Rhyperior, Electivire, Magmortar, Gallade, Dusknoir, and Porygon-Z are somewhat unnecessary compared to other options. (Stantler and Delibird, anyone?)


You have always hated NOSEPASS?

That's why most of them are in UU. Dusknoir is used because he can take quite a lot of hits and pain split them away, not to mention WoW. People use Evire because he is an excellent mixed attacker and if you can switch him in on an electric attack, he goes crazy.

and really needed to evolve and and were good choices

Nosepass didn't need to evolve, nor did it need to exist. They should've thrown it in the "whoops, we failed"
pile over with Dunsparce and Pinsir. I'm so glad they didn't try to evolve Pinsir.

I happen to kind of like 'Lectyvire. It's cool looking now that it exists, and I'd almost say it's an icon for fifth gen.

I've actually wanted Glalie to evolve since Gen III but I wasn't expecting anything like Frosslass to be the
result. Oh well! I'm not a fan of Frosslass either, albeit for the type idea.

yea now that i think about it ur right