I honestly like better he has amazing speed ice beam which i used to beat drake and just amazing
is a fat bastard the only thing good about him is his ability and that he learns solarbeam
but honestly defenitely

is beast. High sp atk. and great movepool along with the abundance of learn able moves easily trumps

HES A FAT SLOW BASTARD THAT COULD GET EASILY CREAMED BY KYOGRE

Not if you teach your good moves it can pwn

Oh joy, another great debate. >_>

I like Kyogre a little better, because it was my version mascot when I started playing RSE, I now have Ruby and not Sapphire and it makes me feel awkward. :/

But both are beast. Kyrogre is a freaking whale, awesome, and is great all around with Calm Mind, Ice Beam, Surf and more, it's just great. Groudon, while making much less sense than Kyogre, is still solid, learning Flamethrower, Solarbeam and having an auto-Sunny Day.

However, one last thing, Rayquaza is my favorite of the "weather trio", as he negates the other two's weather effects (which also makes sense for the story, yay!). He's also a great battler, with solid Attack and Special he makes an awesome mixed sweeper. Dragon Dance, Dragon Claw, Outrage, Hyper Beam, Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Aerial Ace, awesome.

My favorite of the trio is Rayquaza. But if i have to choose between Kyogre and Groudon, i would choose Kyogre.

Kyogre can take out all of it's weakness with Ice Beam and Earthquake. And most of it's moves are based on it's greatest asset, namely Special Attack. It also has a good Special Defense, that means it could take a couple or so of weaknesses hits.

While Groudon doesn't has a good Special Defense to make it survive from some weaknesses hits. And, most of his moves are utilizing it's third greatest asset, namely Special Attack. So even it could give a lot of damage, it didn't make things as good as Kyogre would.

SHOUTING ON THE INTERNET BECAUSE YOUR OPINION IS RIGHT, EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG

BY THE WAY, THEY'RE BOTH FAT, UGLY, AND BORING SO I VOTE FOR NEITHER. ALTHOUGH KYOGRE HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF MY LEAST FAVORITE POKEMON SO GROUDON IS A LITTLE COOLER

is a great pokemon. With Drought ad Solarbeam he can easily take down . Although can easily pwn both.

Then Kyogre could attack with Drizzle and Hydro Pump/Water Spout. I do however agreed that Rayquaza could defeat both.

I still love plus I've beaten plenty of with

- 100- Soft Sand
Fissure
Fire blast
Thunderbolt
Earthquake

hit from either Kyogres ice beam or hydro pump would kill stupid {groudon

Actually, a specially-based Groudon normally doesn't beat Kyogre one-on-one. Assuming no critical hits, any Kyogre with decent stats will survive a Solarbeam from a Modest, Max Special Attack Groudon with Choice Specs. It will then use Water Spout and Ice Beam to KO. The only way for Groudon to win is to either force a speed tie or use a Choice Scarf. Unless Kyogre also has a Choice Scarf, and then it goes back to speed tie. This is assuming it is Sunny.

If it's raining, Groudon is pretty much screwed, but can win if hax favours it. It must use Choice Scarf, win the speed tie, or both, and use Thunder. Thunder must paralyze, and Kyogre must not be able to attack. Then another Thunder will finish it. Assuming Groudon moves first, the chance of this happening is 7.5%. Just saying. And obviously, this could be different if they were on a team.

Anyway, I prefer Kyogre it's awesome, and I like whales better than... dinosaur-things.

The first few posts made my day. I vote neither because everyone knows GEN 3 SUCKED!

YOU FORGOT THAT THE WORLD REVOLVES AROUND YOU!!!!!!!!!!1!!1!!!1111!!!11!!!one!!11eleventy!!11!!!11!!cos(0)!!!1

Blasphemy Gen III has some of the best pokemon in the entire series.

@DarkSwampert ur right

I would like to agree with the two post above me.

Not to mention Gen III paved the way for the current gens, as well as added a ton of moves of evo's so thank Gen III or HGSS wouldn't have been as good.

Gen 3 Sucked. It has like 3 good pokemon. None of them being the legendaries.

Then what are the only 3 good pokemon in your opinion?

Fine. You want me to stay on topic? Alright then.


Kyorge is better than Groudon, because Water is better than land. IN MY OPINION.

Even though Pokemon Ruby was my second Pokemon game (yeah I kinda arrived a little bit later to the Pokemon scene), I have to go with

I never had too much luck with in battle. One time it was OHKO'd by a Roselia with Giga Drain. T.T

is good too!


- No i support groudon too, but actually I like both

... guys... remember that is water and that can learn Solarbeam (grass-attack) with more imbaness cause of the Sun ability to

and here is for you anti-groudon's... learn Kyogre Thunder and do more damage cause of drizzle.. OH WAIT! He is GROUND! so nvm