lol...well, they had an event for Mew in Emerald supposely & if you tweak the event in, you can get a legit Mew in Emerald...sadly I don't have the game...

What I disliked about the starters' type arrangement was that it gave the Fire Type an uber edge against the other 2 starters once fully trained...I mean now that is just terrible...

lol, I cared not 'bout type advantages, my torterra kicked my rival's Infernape's butt. I EV trained meh torterra's defense and hp, and most of infernape's attacks are physical. then I OHKO'd it with earthquake. Oh, I'm such a cheater. No in-game character stands a chance.

well yeah of course...I beat Flint's Infernape in Platinum with my Torterra & it was close to the same level...bah...I am talking about in competitive battles, out of the 3 starters, Infernape destroys the other 2 on Majority & it's a noticable majority...there's EV training but it only goes so far...then your just **** out of luck lol...

I also didn't like though getting all the way back on topic now, that they didn't utilize all of the Ingame Special Events of any of the 3 games...mostly DP...not even a Darkrai or Shaymin Ingame Event...frustrating indeed...at least in Platinum you got the Member Card & Oak's Letter by some method via Wi-Fi...but still no Azure Flute...what a waste of an item's creation I mean really...

Im betting they still plan on utilizing those in game events later on. just because heart gold is out and Gen V will be soon, doesnt mean sinnoh is going extinct. they'll still squeeze some more money outta it before pokemon dies, if it dies, god forbid.

@Ryder
Seems pretty strong to me. I don't think they'll run out of ideas yet. Even if they do, they can always go back to the basics which went over well.

They might...& have pretty much given up on DP...Pt I assume they will do the Azure Flute Event for eventually...I hope...



This they could...this they could do...but they didn't do it with the 3rd Gen so I'm not so confident that they will even consider it...even if it's a different Generation now...

I bet if nothing else, they'll at least keep making new regions, even if they use the same old pokemon. but i think i kinda steered everyone off topic. oops. im distracted so easily.

I agree with the lack of fire types. I am currently bummed that I can't find a good fire type to stick in my team.

I've got Turtwig lv 17, HootHoot 18, Pikachu Colored Pichu 30, Misdreavus 17, Geodude 17, and Shellos 17, and training to level 20 to face Gardenia. I wish I had the aforementioned fire type...

Yeah...there wer some noticable amount of Lags I noticed when moving my character at all like one time I was running through a town & I noticed that it was glitching up a bit...it was like a game right before it freezes only without distorting the screen noticably in any direction...

I yes Ryder I agree there were virtually no Real Poison Type Pokemon ingame to put on your team...they were pretty much all Dual Type Bug Pokemon & the Grass/Poisons were pretty much post National Dex...lame...

Quick list of things I didn't like of DPP (I have platinum JSUK)

1. Unbalance of types- there were very few fire types and WAY TOO MANYGRASS AND WATER POKES!!!!!!!!
2. Too Many Legendaries- We had ---- 14 LEGENDARIES!!!!

3. Very confusing victory road- even though I have a map for the road on some big guide, I still get lost every time I go on it!

4. Battle fronter- in platinum, there was this place that you had to beat all 7 trainers in a row in order to win 3 battle points.
I beat 6 trainers and on my 7th one, I lost and got ABSOLUTLY NOTHING!!! I may never go back there again!

5. Slow graphics- the 3Dish graphics slowed everything down alot. And it makes the area look kinda rugged. Not good.

I could ramble on of a few other things, but these are just the main issues.

1. Yes there are a lack of fire types in the game, in fact I believe there are only 5 which includes non fully evolved ones. But at the same time, the fire type starter is arguably the best fire starter out of all of the generations sporting the ability as a fast mixed sweeper not only in the story but also in competitive play. Also, Heatran is an amazingly powerful pokemon even in Wi-Fi. The quality could arguably overrule the quantity.

2. Manaphy and Phione were NOT introduced in this generation. Also Shaymin , Arceus , and Darkrai were insanely difficult to obtain through a legit event.

3. No Comment...

4. I adore the battle tower in this generation, as it is probably the best way to get back at the computer for all of the hax it does to you. Also allowing you to obtain great Wi-Fi items and TM's as a reward for beating down on the computer.

5. I agree with this, there were some really buggy parts especially in larger areas. Also some of the building overviews were awful in comparison to how large they were inside. The ratio's were off quite a bit.

In my opinion, the DS introduction of Pokemon was absolutely amazing, the jump in competitive play via Wi-Fi, the good story with solid enemies in team galactic made for an absolutely outstanding game that I have invested a ton of time into. The only real thing I could complain about with DPP was the Gym leaders being so... boring. I didn't enjoy them as much as I have in previous generations, basically the only fun in beating them was the level up. Volkner was an exception to this, I liked his avatar, team, and Gym along with the storyline. The E4 was ok and the Champion didn't compare to other generations.

Yeah you're right on the Manaphy and Phione, I thought manaphy was in Hoenn for whatever reason before DP. That was my mistake.

Yea I was playing platinum but I know in Diamond/Pearl there were only TWO final-evolution fire types before National Dex which were and . And they guy in the elite 4 who had fire types, he was forced to use other types because of no fires.

And yes there were types worse than fire- like ice. The only final evo's before national dex were and .

most frustating??

1) i agree with the lack of fire types, but i don't mind. in fact, i tried to repeat the WHOLE game w/out fire types, and i did well
2) my stupid ds has a hard time coping up w/ wifi (maybe bcoz 8s an antique), so i REALLY have a hard time w/ underground exploring. I CAN'T EVEN GET INSIDE, WTH
3) second the motion with Bidoof/Bibarel and Starly/Staravia. try counting them from the start, and probably, u'll lose count

LAck of fire pokemon yes. Not having some of the awesome kanto Pokemon ( i dont do trading ) snd a bit more difficult leveling up......

To me its the whole "Search for the HMs" I never get lucky with them ,
And come on and are good pokemon, on my first play through of pearl was my saving grace!

Lack of Fire types, the pokemon in the Great Marsh that I could catch by walking around, the lack of actul good pokemon in the game.

I handled the Fire pokemon problem by trading for a chimchar with some Pokemon I could easily get. I got so angry over the fire pokemon I just had to handke it in that manner.

I didn't like the fact that actual good Pokemon were either A) Hard to get or B) not availble until later in the game. I mean, a level freaking 18 Gible can't be found till you beat Byron! Jeez...

Yeah, I mean how much do we have to do to just get a simple, level 18 ! It's way weaker than the rest of my team and dragons are hard to train so it takes forever just to get him caught up.

ikr? And no good electric types made it that much harder. Pikachu/Raichu is meh and Luxray is just sad

Exactly! I've never really liked the physical electrics (Electrode, Luxray, Manectric) and then Pikachu/Raichu are a bit on the weak side as I raised a Level 80+ Pikachu and it's Sp. Atk could take out most opponents but when he got hit once he was taken out far too quickly.

I really hate to walk on marshy and snow areas. You walk so slow and get stuck was the worst. And the Victory Road was annoying.

That freakin' lake Pokemon Mesprite!! It's so annoying to catch since it just goes floating around the place aimlessly. The only time it shows up is when your not ready to capture it! And if you accidentally kill it in the process there's no chance of capturing it again! (As far as I'm aware).