Where were they announced? Also, I agree Samurott is awesome. But Dewott and Oshawott are not that helpful at all. I really want to know that Chespin is a dark/grass.

What's with all this talk about sweepers and stats. Enjoy the game for what it is! They didn't make it for people to calculate how much something is going to do. They did it for people to enjoy the game itself.


Froakie actually looks to me like it might be the worst of the three. I don't know why just something about it. I have this idea about Chespin's final evo being a Deceiving pokemon. Where looks can be deceiving. Sort of like Cherrim it changes from cute, to shifty and dark.


EDIT: OK I GET IT! No need to batter me i was wrong... Sorry.

Why would breeding natures/IVs, EVs etc. be included if we weren't meant to exploit use them?
And isn't the main aim for them to make money?

Alright so all three starter pokemon are all pure Grass, Fire, and Water respectively, giving Bulbasaur the distinction of being the only unevolved starter pokemon to be dual typed for another generation. I used Serperior in White and Samurott in White 2 as my starter pokemon. Samurott gets better moves early on than the other starters (Razor Shell being more useful than Water Gun/Bubblebeam and being able to get Revenge and Megahorn not terribly late in the story) and having used all grass type starters in at least one game, I only recall having an easier time when I used Torterra in Diamond and Serperior proved to be pretty good. I still use Serperior in wifi battles and it isn't gonna make a push to take Serperior into Uber but it's been crucial in several of my victories. Emboar I have the least experience with and I know it's slow but Focus Sash and a strong enough move can still do enough to make a dent on a team especially on 3 vs. 3. Gen V being underwhelming my butt. Probably if you're playing 9 year olds who go on Random Matchup with 1 of those 3 starters and then their next pokemon are lv 41 Zebstrika and lv 38 Gurdurr.

I don't mean to sound rude and I'm sorry if I did but I've seen these pokemon be used pretty well before and they can't be completely written off. As for Camerupt, I've got nothing. That pokemon sucks lol so yeah maybe Fennekin will evolve into Fire/Ground like someone else mentioned.

Honestly, I think that they should have more than 3 types for a starters (maybe a psychic, dark, and fighting for a type balance)

Well that ship has sailed since we know that the 3 starters are pure Grass, pure Fire, and pure Water. However, there's still a possibility that their next or final evolutions get such secondary types to have two different type advantage cycles at once with these 3 starters.

I'm all up for the reverse compatibility of having the Grass/Dark Water/Fighting and Fire/Psychic and having them all be even among themselves. It would be a pretty neat trick and unique, specially after the internet lit on fire at the fan hope that those would be the new types for starters a gen or two ago. So my hopes on that. Besides I'm all too used to having starters gain a type through their cycles so I'm not really all too worried.

I don't really mind the Fire/Fighting combo, but four times in a row is pushing it. I hope Fennekin is something else. Fire/Electric would be interesting. Fire/Psychic would be pretty cool, and I'm on the bandwagon thinking that this'll be its type once it evolves.

So am I, but in my opinion I don't think that's a bad thing. It's a great wagon to be on. Would you really let a wagon that would take you to your happy place pass you by just because other people got it? Nope I'd just enjoy it with them haha Fire/Psychic let's go! haha

dat unconfirmed piece of news

even though it makes more sense to be Grass/Dark to allow that reverse triad thing going on.

I didn't mean that I was unhappy about being on this particular bandwagon. I do hope Fennekin is Fire/Psychic.

I don't know if I believe that. I mean, Patrice? That's unbelievable. It's not a tree! That should have been the first red flag.

Patrice is a first name, not a surname. It doesn't matter if the first name isn't a tree.

I did not even know the professors had first names.

Also, I think that Fennekin for Fire/Psychic isn't possible. I'd like it if they don't rob Victini of that rite not even after one gen.

Don't forget Cedric Juniper. BW2 really tried to hammer home the point that they do have first names.

Did Rowan say it once in Gen 4? Or perhaps my memory is foggy.


Either way, the two circles are going in the same direction. Water/Dark beats both halves of Fire/Psychic. That is what displeases me. If they reversed it (Big Froakie being Water/Fighting and Big Chespin being Grass/Dark), I'd probably like it better.

But I'll be pleased just so long as Big Froakie looks awesome.

Victini isn't the only Fire/Psychic. Darmanitan's Zen mode is, too.

When I look at Fennekin, I see something sneaky. Im gonna say Fire Dark.

Croaky....For some reason I see its Final Evo being a big fat frog with a wooden staff and a Stache that rivals Alakazam. Im Gonna say he starts out Pure Water, then ends up Water/Psychic.

Chespin confounds me...I either see it ending up as a hulking Armadillo with either the Grass/Ground or the Grass/Rock typing. On the other hand, I see something sleek and speedy that packs a punch, So Grass/ Fighting.

To sum it up:

Fennekin-Fire/Dark
Croaky-Water to Water/Psychic
Chespin-Grass to either Grass/Ground, Grass/Rock, or Grass/Fighting

The person who gave this news also gave names for the 4 new Pokémon. The correct names. I think this person may be right.
In which case, prepare for fairy type, another Mewtwo form, dual typed moves, EV facility, and the hatred/trolling (except for that EV facility)

Well, if it is true, then Fennekin will only take 1/4 the damage from fairies, so there's that for Fennekin fans. I still don't believe it, though. And, just a question, where did it say the source gave the names of the four new Pokémon?